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Re: 60 ft blues
« Reply #165 on: September 18 2019, 11:43:18 PM »
It’s a stage II from Lonnie it can handle
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« Reply #166 on: September 18 2019, 11:48:45 PM »
The CEA 6262 is the baddest street/strip turbo going...and I spooled it with an AC 16930...2800 stall...and it was a JB. That's a 2800 you have...
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« Reply #167 on: September 19 2019, 03:17:14 AM »
The 6262 is a great turbo. And I considered it, I must have called Pat  at Prevision turbo three times before buying the 5857 over the 6262.
The little turbo has served me well and I think there is more power in it.
Steve has made mention it may be out of air at this point, but I’m just 25 psi.
I’m running a old Action 15 row SLIC that there’s no data on that could be a bottleneck. I have no idea how hard the compressor is pushing to get 25 psi. It could be 35 at the wheel for all I know.
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« Reply #168 on: September 19 2019, 09:20:39 AM »
The way Pat was talking with Murphster it's good past 25. Like you said...the SLIC you have is a question mark.
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Re: 60 ft blues
« Reply #169 on: September 19 2019, 09:35:31 AM »
To spool or not to spool that is the? Define ''spool''


Would someone do an experiment for me? Or maybe someone has the logs= Is the 'calculated'[size=78%]  slip% the same with bias ply slicks and drag radials.[/size]


TIM You just blew the minds of all the theorists. :icon_eyes: :) [/size][size=78%] [/size]

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« Reply #170 on: September 19 2019, 09:44:00 AM »
To spool or not to spool that is the? Define ''spool''


Would someone do an experiment for me? Or maybe someone has the logs= Is the 'calculated'[size=78%]  slip% the same with bias ply slicks and drag radials.[/size]


TIM You just blew the minds of all the theorists. :icon_eyes: :)



Steve already explained what it takes to spool a turbo.
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Re: 60 ft blues
« Reply #171 on: September 19 2019, 09:49:03 AM »
The 6262 is a great turbo. And I considered it, I must have called Pat  at Prevision turbo three times before buying the 5857 over the 6262.
The little turbo has served me well and I think there is more power in it.
Steve has made mention it may be out of air at this point, but I’m just 25 psi.
I’m running a old Action 15 row SLIC that there’s no data on that could be a bottleneck. I have no idea how hard the compressor is pushing to get 25 psi. It could be 35 at the wheel for all I know.

25# may be out of it's efficiency range at 6000 rpm and with those heads.  Then, there is that about the difference between the boost at the turbo outlet and the boost at the IC outlet.  In reality you might be running 28 or so.  I don't know what the drop across the core is on that unit.

With regard to the slic vs fmic choice, you may have noticed that a lot of the faster guys are going back to the slic style-particularly with alky spraying or E85.  I suspect we will see some 8's run shortly if it has not already occurred on slic's.  The GN1 is pretty popular as it appears to perform as well as the much more expensive PTE.
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Re: 60 ft blues
« Reply #172 on: September 19 2019, 09:54:13 AM »
Tim if there's any crack in the W/S, it will have to be replace, Th e number on these W/S are DW 1016 Shaded. Safelite is a good company. there own by Speedy Glass.

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« Reply #173 on: September 19 2019, 10:03:06 AM »
Rob Ortoski runs 8's with a SLIC. I'm unsure of what core it is. I swapped from a SLIC to a FM...but it was to keep the car consistent for bracket racing. I wasn't trying to pick up ET. If I ever buy another TR I'll slap a Precision SLIC in it.
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« Reply #174 on: September 19 2019, 10:06:35 AM »
For some reason, I thought he was running the GN1, but I probably disremember the conversation. 
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« Reply #175 on: September 19 2019, 10:10:58 AM »
For some reason, I thought he was running the GN1, but I probably disremember the conversation. 



If memory serves, I THINK Jason said he's friends with RA...and it might be two cores welded together. Might be cores RA has. You might know what he ran...ya' been around longer than me.
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« Reply #176 on: September 19 2019, 10:23:17 AM »
He did that years ago for sure.  If I recall correctly, two cores welded together went into the 8's many years ago but I think it was on a Stage engine.  Think Mark Jackson?

Most people don't understand that IC's are heat sinks and that air cooling during a single pass is pretty much infinitesimal.  It benefits the most in cooling down the core between races and in that context, it does not matter if it is painted black, silver, or candy apple red.

If one is hot lapping, then one may get more cooling on the return road with a front mount in preparation for another immediate run...
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« Reply #177 on: September 19 2019, 10:32:07 AM »
To prove a point about heat soaking in back to back runs with SLICs, I got Dan Keller to race me at an Armdrop event a couple years back. We raced and I got him by a couple cars. Glen the owner of Armdrop waved us right through to the front immediately. I put a whole bunch of lengths on Dan on the second run. I was using the Megacooler FM from TR Customs. Got it shipped to my door from a guy from Calgary for 600 bucks Canadian brand new.
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« Reply #178 on: September 19 2019, 10:34:51 AM »
Dan needed a co2 or nos spray bar on that cooler LOL

Good for at least four passes before cracking the welds!
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Re: 60 ft blues
« Reply #179 on: September 19 2019, 10:36:24 AM »
To spool or not to spool that is the? Define ''spool''


Would someone do an experiment for me? Or maybe someone has the logs= Is the 'calculated'[size=78%]  slip% the same with bias ply slicks and drag radials.[/size]


TIM You just blew the minds of all the theorists. :icon_eyes: :)



Steve already explained what it takes to spool a turbo.




But give me a definitive answer to ''spool''.


Way back when we were still doing SPARTA in oct; my car had stock motor with 009's , with TE62 turbo .275-50 bfg's and a 2800 Pats. That day I went 2 11.90s and 11-70 at 111 and 113 mph. with more timing on 94.,Jay carter chips if that matters, however to get a 158 -60 it took 11 seconds to ''spool the turbo. OH stock intercooler with the screen still in and stock neck.
I don't even want to know what the fluid temp was. I  was told 100  deg per sec.
To me spool is a subjective term.


Geez that sounds like somebody else LOL

 

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