Canadian healthcare wait... it's getting better

[Steve Wood]

Eversomuch better!

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/waiting-your-turn-wait-times-for-health-care-in-canada-2018

[daveismissing]

LOL 

[Steve Wood]

except for New Brunswick.  If you live there, you die!

[turbobuickltd]

Only 3 countries in the world have universal heath care


Cuba


North Korea


and...


Canada

[reality]

In 1994 I took a week off work and on the Mon. night I got pains in the stomach and dry heaves. I walked around like that till Sat when my buddy's wife suggested I see the doctor. Well he poked around and asked questions and said I think you should go to the hospital. I said OK I'll go home get the wife and a suitcase. He said I think you should go NOW.


Long story short inside of about 3 hrs the ruptured appendix were out. 2 weeks in the hospital due to complications. NO cost to me.


1 good thing that came from it was I smoked my last cigarette at the door of the hosp. after 41 years smoking. over 25 yrs ago.


No waiting in an emergency or critical care.

[Forzfed]

I was on a flight a couple of weeks ago with a mother and daughter from Minnesota.  The mother worked for a hospital there.  So we struck up a conversation about the health care system.  She worked in administration and was involved with billing.  She had some interesting stories but one of a gentleman that had no insurance and needed a heart transplant.  Absolutely every surgeon that could do that operation denied him!  I thought that was pretty wild.  From her own experience something has to be done so everyone can afford a decent coverage.

[wmsonta]

  She worked in administration .............. .............. .............. .............. .............. .............. .... needed a heart transplant.  Absolutely every surgeon that could do that operation denied him!

He probably wasn't a viable candidate for extensive surgery. For every instance anybody can cite, I will have another in opposition. Pre-Obamacare. Most w/o Medicaid. People I know/have known do not go without healthcare for the inability to pay.
After the ACA, most or a lot of employed people had to drop their insurance because of increased cost of premiums.

[Steve Wood]

Amazing.  The ACA act has cranked the cost way up and no one can afford insurance now and if you can, you cannot afford the deductibles.


Most people go to the ER and worry about the cost later.  If you are dying, you go to the head of the line..if your kid has a runny nose, you go to the back


If you have insurance, the cost is about twice what it is if you offer to pay for it.

[reality]

I t seem's the only difference between US and CAN. healthcare is the way it's funded.


So to alleviate the funding problem in the US might I suggest a GST. 

[Forzfed]

I think Steve said it best, the days of voting in a politician to serve the people is long gone!

I work in the health care system and know exactly why there are wait times.  And it comes down to our politicians!  They put in middle management to micro manage and slow things down.  I'm the one that boots up the MRI's, CT machines and all the other little stuff after a power outage.  I know the head of these departments.

We have a 3 month back log on the MRI's.  The department can easily take care of this in a month and no more back log but are told they can't.  We have politicians that want to bring in private health care and go out of their way to make the system fail.  Our CEO, whom is a well respected surgeon was fired a couple of weeks ago because he told the politicians in charge to stop the stupidity that they are doing to supposedly make the Health System better.  And of course when dealing with people in charge they don't like to be told what they are doing is wrong or immoral.

I'm willing to bet the same people that are causing problems in our Health care system are also causing it in the US system!

Stay safe and healthy everyone!

[Steve Wood]

many older doctors retired here.  Excuse was they could not deal with the government bureaucracy as it took more time than treating patients.  Government is never about efficiency.

[Forzfed]

Our local government thought the nurses were getting too complacent and decided to delete their jobs and make them bid on them.  So, now we have nurses that are not familiar with their new field.  It's like telling a Transmission guy he is now doing the new fuel injections on the vehicles!

I am getting calls from these new nurses that don't know how to work the equipment.

[Steve Wood]

and, in a nutshell, anything run by the government will never compete with free public enterprise.  When large private companies start buying each other up, the result also approaches government run enterprise.

[wmsonta]

and, in a nutshell, anything run by the government will never compete with free public enterprise.  When large private companies start buying each other up, the result also approaches government run enterprise.

I would just change one word.
"will never compete with unregulated public enterprise."

[TexasT]

Face it, the govt can't compete with regulated public enterprise in an efficient manner. Govt never needs to be profitable.


best statement in here, "stay healthy everyone"