I understand that Steve, and I wasn't opposing anything you mentioned. I was just touching on what Earl mentioned as far as guys wanting to run a certain time in the qtr mile and it being annoying. As far as the OP is concerned, I was only saying that based on what had read with regards to turbo and TC combos, the combo I have "ideally" is too much but I have not sacrificed any drivability on the street with it. I think track times are cool, but I prefer dyno numbers only because I feel like the drivers of these cars are far less consistent than the dynos. As you mentioned, the weather plays a HUGE role as well as track prep and other things that are beyond our control. I'd rather have a car that was dyno tuned on the "safe" side so i could at least know theoretically what it "should" run as it sits; not pushing it to the limits like some do because they're chasing a number.