New start-up help

[reality]

http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/buick-v6-turbo-tech/53584-can-anyone-identify-these-fuel-injectors.html

[V6DVette]

http://racetronix.com/621031.html


Who's right?

[earlbrown]

I was always under the assumption you could only run Eric and Bobs chip with the Translator.

Translator will work with any chip.  The ECM has no idea anythings odd, since....

you know...   it translates.

[reality]

http://racetronix.com/621031.html


Who's right?

About what?
I think those are a replacement for 009's
There are some 'new' designs.

[reality]

The extender chip keeps the computer in control of the fuel up to 512 grams of air and the extreme to 768. So figure out how fast you want to go and order a chip.
BTW I think you should call full throttle and get a new set of injectors and an extender chip. Or Eric will sell the same thing I believe.



 
http://www.turbotweak.com/extender-instructionsf.pdf

[Scoobum]

Injectors are D3181AA's=42.5 GTG
 So its someones good idea to get a chip burned from TurboTweak.(my pension check came in...LOL)  Gonna presume the injectors are ok and go from there. Just to keep it simple. I'm at the point in my life now I like it simple. Hopefully after it's in, the car will start and idle without issues and I'll be able to get on to finishing the rest of the car and drive it before I die.
But I'm sure I'll be back here to bother you guys about something...

Order a street chip from Eric. Give him the part number you see on the side of the injector. Tell him the max boost is 18 PSI...there will enuf high gear fuel in it to not blow it up.

This is a hybrid. Is your ECM getting a MPH signal? If it isn't...you can only adjust WOT fuel. I've dealt with that situation already. Buddy of mine has a hybrid. There's some fukn plug-n-play gadget he installed for the ECM to get the MPH signal. I'll get back when I find out.

https://www.turbotweakstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1000

[Steve Wood]

Which 009's do you have there are 2 a 30 lb and a 42.5.


A good set of 42.5 are more stable and flow more than 50's at higher pressure. Will that start the discussion?

Are you thinking of 40lb and 42.5lb?

I think he is alluding to the fact that 50# injectors lock up at 50 psi of fuel pressure (hose off-static pressure)

The Lucas injectors are the disc type so they are not as prone to gumming up and staying open so I would think they are not the cause of the immediate problem but ? 

[reality]

Sorry I read it wrong again and there is no need to crank up the fuel pressure any more with all the new injectors out there but back in the 80's when you didn't have the choices you do now it was common practice to crank the static pressure sky high to get the fuel needed. And the 42.5 would take more pressure before locking up. Hence more fuel.


And to confuse this issue what does 100% duty cycle really mean?
To me it's just a theoretic number based on a certain criteria.

[Scoobum]

School me on how to adjust WOT fuel for Bobs chip...cuz I don't see it in any of the 8 parameters or the instructions.


http://www.turbotweak.com/extender-instructionsf.pdf

[V6DVette]

Injectors are D3181AA's=42.5 GTG
 So its someones good idea to get a chip burned from TurboTweak.(my pension check came in...LOL)  Gonna presume the injectors are ok and go from there. Just to keep it simple. I'm at the point in my life now I like it simple. Hopefully after it's in, the car will start and idle without issues and I'll be able to get on to finishing the rest of the car and drive it before I die.
But I'm sure I'll be back here to bother you guys about something...

Order a street chip from Eric. Give him the part number you see on the side of the injector. Tell him the max boost is 18 PSI...there will enuf high gear fuel in it to not blow it up.

This is a hybrid. Is your ECM getting a MPH signal? If it isn't...you can only adjust WOT fuel. I've dealt with that situation already. Buddy of mine has a hybrid. There's some fukn plug-n-play gadget he installed for the ECM to get the MPH signal. I'll get back when I find out.

https://www.turbotweakstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1000

Its call a VSS Converter module and yes I have one.
 Chip is on order.
Is it worth it to try to get these injectors tested?

[Scoobum]

Is there somewhere in town to get them cleaned? Might be a good idea with them sitting.

[reality]

Well 1 way is bump the fuel pressure.
If the computer is in control you shouldn't need to change high gear fueling. Let the computer do that. you are trying to compare it to a predetermined value.based on 256 grams of air.

[V6DVette]

There is a diesel injector shop in town. I don't know if they can do gas injectors. Guess I'll have to find out

[Scoobum]

There is a diesel injector shop in town. I don't know if they can do gas injectors. Guess I'll have to find out

They should be able to help you out.

[reality]

I believe that diesel shops can clean them but maybe not flow them.
Personally I don't like second guessing. i/d just get new flowed ones from whoever you ordered the chip from.