How Fast Would It Go?

[Steve Wood]

He runs tens but his name was forgotten? Yeah, I'm going with the ocean front property in Arizona.The things people post on internet boards.

Hank Terry edged into the tens with a TE60 and he was not the first on a stock long block.

[Steve Wood]

and look what Tim Stockwell did with a 61 turbo at 31 psi of boost. 

http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/recipes/Stockwell.html

[Steve Wood]

Always wondered how much boost Dan was running when he edged into the nInes...bet you that it was way above what we consider the sweet spot for his turbo to be.

[Scoobum]

Always wondered how much boost Dan was running when he edged into the nInes...bet you that it was way above what we consider the sweet spot for his turbo to be.

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[Scoobum]

and look what Tim Stockwell did with a 61 turbo at 31 psi of boost. 

http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/recipes/Stockwell.html

Most won't practice, test or put in the seat time like this gent did. Case in point. One of the young GTA lads earlier this year was boasting his car puts down 600 HP. He has more than I do. He showed up at SMP this year...and ran a 13.1 at 98...

[nocooler]

With a 1.7 60ft it must be a peg-leg car 

[motorhead]

and look what Tim Stockwell did with a 61 turbo at 31 psi of boost. 

http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/recipes/Stockwell.html

Most won't practice, test or put in the seat time like this gent did. Case in point. One of the young GTA lads earlier this year was boasting his car puts down 600 HP. He has more than I do. He showed up at SMP this year...and ran a 13.1 at 98...

I sure hope I didn't tell him to buy my car 100 times... because that would be really disappointing - for him.

[Steve Wood]

and look what Tim Stockwell did with a 61 turbo at 31 psi of boost. 

http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/recipes/Stockwell.html

Most won't practice, test or put in the seat time like this gent did. Case in point. One of the young GTA lads earlier this year was boasting his car puts down 600 HP. He has more than I do. He showed up at SMP this year...and ran a 13.1 at 98...

There was a kid around here that had an old TA with a built 455 in it...best sounding car I have heard in years with a big roller cam.  Everyone said it ran low elevens and needed traction.  He and his buddies caught me at the post office one day when I was driving my T which has a 44 on it.  I got called out big time.

He wanted to go from a roll because he did not have slicks on it.  We went from 40 mph.  I had 10 links on him in an 1/8th of a mile.  I suspect it was a 14 sec car.  He was not spinning the tires, either.

It was on ebay three days later.

Moral is, don't believe what you hear-only what you see

[Forzfed]

Most won't practice, test or put in the seat time like this gent did. Case in point. One of the young GTA lads earlier this year was boasting his car puts down 600 HP. He has more than I do. He showed up at SMP this year...and ran a 13.1 at 98...

Doesn't that equate more to 300hp he is putting down?  Sounds like one of the Dyno guys in down who cranks up his dyno numbers so everyone leaves happy.  One kid in an early 90's TA with a LT1 said he put down 400hp with just headers and CAI.  He then ran a 14.1.  Ran into some Mustang guys at a local car show and one guy with a 2000 Mach1 was saying how his bone stock Mustang put down 330hp.  I asked him where he dynoed and told him my low milage car barely does that and will blow the doors right off his Stang!

[xpander343]

I'd like to make it out to SMP this year and see you doing some of runs, just wish SMP and Picton werent' so bloody far from barrie.
I'd love to bring my car out someday but the stupid thing needs every bushing on it, the timing set is 30 years old, so are the valve springs, and injectors.  Norbs alchy kit is still in the box he handed me cause I hadn't done the other stuff first.  Figured it wasn't  worth the fuel to drive down and find out that all that stuff needs replaced.  Also I know brad I shoulda bought your 60's when you sold them.   
Bought a house with a garage this time, so hopefully I can do some of that stuff this winter anyways. 

[gusszgs]

Steve, I've read that 'Stockwell' story on gnttype a few times. Pretty amazing what these guys were able to accomplish. That write up doesn't go into much detail on the trans/converter. I know the article says stock trans and D5. I wonder if he was running a brake? Those are some nasty short times on stock stuff.......ev en with a slick. Maybe he was launching off the ebrake?
Never the less, pretty amazing shyte

[Steve Wood]

I had a detailed write up that he published once...might still be on tb.com.  I think he was using the handbrake.  He did all the old racer tricks.   vaseline on the front wheel bearings, indexed the plugs...lots of air in the front tires...

I remembered that after he finally wounded the heck out of it, everyone was calling him a liar and a cheater, so invited a bunch of people over and had a tear down party.  It was what he said it was.


I think that was not long before the Stageright tranny brake came out...seems like he was putting all the hydraulic pressure to the rear and locking the ebrake....

When you read the gnttype write up, it is hard not to be shocked at how crude the cars were in those days

[Scoobum]

I was always blown away on the short times they pulled with a non adjustable chip. They had to be launching off the e-brake. Either way...kudos to them...cuz they didn't have the technology we enjoy today.

[Scoobum]

I'd like to make it out to SMP this year and see you doing some of runs, just wish SMP and Picton werent' so bloody far from barrie.
I'd love to bring my car out someday but the stupid thing needs every bushing on it, the timing set is 30 years old, so are the valve springs, and injectors.  Norbs alchy kit is still in the box he handed me cause I hadn't done the other stuff first.  Figured it wasn't  worth the fuel to drive down and find out that all that stuff needs replaced.  Also I know brad I shoulda bought your 60's when you sold them.   
Bought a house with a garage this time, so hopefully I can do some of that stuff this winter anyways. 

I gave those injectors and chips away at that price. Throw a set of 981's on that thing. If you have a compressor and Kirbans tool...let me know. I'll come up and change them with you. I've only done a couple dozen sets. I use over the counter timing sets...and grab yourself a new water pump. If you have trouble setting the cam sensor...call me. I can do it over the phone with you.

I'm fortunate SMP is only a half hour from me. It's an old outlaw track...but it's fun...and laid back. Mix N Match events are nice...cuz there's only 50-70 cars show up. Track prep wasn't bad at these events last year...and I'll put SMP up against any track for prep on a race day.

[xpander343]

thanks Brad for the offer!  Just over the counter timing sets?  I know you have your motor apart it seems like once a year, do you find they are wearing much after a season of use?  Sometimes info you read gets influenced so much by venders its hard to tell what myth from reality can be at times.