won't start after front seal repair

[TexasT]

Do you have the cam sensor setting tool or a meter and directions on how to set the cam sensor?

http://www.vortexbuicks-etc.com/cam_sensor.htm

How are you coming along on setting the crank sensor?

http://www.vortexbuicks-etc.com/cranksensor.htm

[Steve Wood]

cut a section out of a one liter coke bottle and use it to check the clearance on the crank sensor.

Theory says it should be the ignition module but I don't know why in this case.  But, check the CCCI fuse and the ecm-ign fuse in the fuse block to make sure something did not cause one of them to pop.

[poppy1440]

Yes I have a cam sensor tool and the light does come on.
I think I may have it installed 180 out because I didn't pull a plug and make sure it was on the compression stroke.  I was pretty sure it was installed correctly because I had everything marked.

No I do not have a crank sensor tool.

[poppy1440]

I'll check the fuses and attempt to reset the crank sensor.

Hello Mr. Steve.

I hope this one isn't going to be as bad as the last issue you helped me with.

But if it does, I'm sure I'll learn something in the process.

[Steve Wood]

you don't need a crank sensor tool..a gap of about 0.025" is about right but the plastic out of a one or two liter pop bottle is about right.

If you have injector pulse (blinking noid light), then both the crank and cam sensors should be working...even if the cam sensor is not adjusted properly.

We are assuming you have injector pulse because you said the plugs were wet.  I would prefer to use the noid light, but.....

[Steve Wood]

Theo...these cars are just like the women in our lives

[poppy1440]

Mr. Steve,  I think I just wanted to have another reason to bug you and pick your brain for knowledge.

[Scoobum]

Setting the cam sensor only takes ten minutes. I'm fortunate I'm one of these people that doesn't think too much.

[gnonyx]

You also might want to check the engine cam sensor female prong's are not push back or corroded.

[poppy1440]

ok I checked a few more things.
1.  I reset the cam sensor.  I made sure it was at 25 atdc and then used the cam sensor tool to reset it.
2.  I used a playing card and cut it long ways about a 1/4 inch wide and placed it on each side of re-luctor wheel inside the crank
     sensor.  The reluctor wheel goes freely thru the sensor with very little if any contact.
3.  I checked all the fuses.
4.  The fuel pump is priming to 40psi.
5.   Key on I have over 11 volts on the green wire that goes to crank sensor.  unplugged


One thing I did not mention is that I just got my ecm back from eric at turbo tweak who made some repairs to my power logger.

I thought I would throw that in because I stated earlier that the only thing I had done was change front seal.
But he assured me that all is well with the ecm and chip.   

Next I plan to text the crank sensor itself.

[good2win22]

Did you plug back together the Orange ECM wire ar the battery?  It won't start if that's unplugged

[poppy1440]

Yes, I checked the ecm wire...




but it is acting just like if it were not connected.




tomorrow I am going to check all connections and the crank sensor adjustment again if I get a chance.

[poppy1440]

Maybe the sensor got damaged so kind of way when I removed or re-installed it.


I'm going to check vortex buick tomorrow to see if their is a way to check the sensor itself.

[Scoobum]

I'm was betting on the cam sensor or crank sensor cuz those are the two most likely items that could have got screwed up with the repair you did.

[Steve Wood]

again, if the car has injector pulse, it would seem that the crank sensor is working...