I was wrong but now we are getting somewhere!

[Steve Wood]

No reason not to.  I thought everyone poured some oil in the filter before screwing it on...but who knows?

given there is minimal load on the engine at idle...I doubt a lot of serious harm done on an empty filter start.  I think there is more likelyhood of damage caused by unplugging the cam sensor or fuel pump than filling the filter and starting the car instantly.

One thing that is dumb is unplugging the orange ecm memory wire and losing the learning that conventional chips have built up over driving.

[YGspider]

Something just came to mind.. could a clogged pickup be the suspect to my valve train noise and if so how hard would it be to clean or replace? I've read that a clogged oil pickup happens after oil changes sometimes and it can cause valve train and lifter noise to the motor.

[YGspider]

? anyone ever experience something along the lines of that ^^

[278CIKILLER]

Your beating your head against the wall on this valve train noise, Just drive the car and in joy it and there's nothing you can do.

[SuperSix]

Your beating your head against the wall on this valve train noise, Just drive the car and in joy it and there's nothing you can do.

This..

I m sure there's other issues you can attend to.

[Steve Wood]

it is common for the timing gear to shed nylon bits as they fail.  This usually plugs the pick up screen.  Becomes obvious when the oil pressure drops under acceleration at higher rpms.

It has nothing to do with changing the oil.  If you drop the pan and find the pick screen plugged, it needs to be cleaned out and if you don't know if the timing chain/gears have been changed, or not, you need to pull the front cover

[Steve Wood]

I remember a 221 deg cam that I ran for awhile.  Sounded like a 327 chevy with a solid lifter cam.  But it sounded like a P47 making a low pass at 6000 rpm

[motorhead]

Mine had crap in it after 20 years of abuse... rinsed it out and carried on.

[stratman]

post 63 and 64 say it all.just drive the car and enjoy it.

[earlbrown]

The original pickup has a flap door that will let crud into the pump when the screen get compromised.  The common aftermarket Melling unit is solid screen.


If you valve train gets nosier at the exact instant of an oil change it's most likely viscosity and/or flow that the engine doesn't like. Not the act of changing.

[gnonyx]

When in doubt, drop the oil pan down and look at the oil pickup. The last thing you need is to have your engine rebuilt again, for something so simply.

If you do look into it, like earlbrown said replace the oil pickup with a Melling type.

[SuperSix]

Hmm. a cheap inspection camera would be great for checking that, assuming it would fit in the oil drain hole.

[YGspider]

Hmm. a cheap inspection camera would be great for checking that, assuming it would fit in the oil drain hole.

I like the way you think ! And this winter the motor is coming out and getting a full checkup. Plus the engine bay cleaned and painted. I will do all the work then.

[TexasT]

You really need some hearing lessons or reading lessons or something. As my grandfather used to tell me, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

You have good numbers on your sm, right? If not then it is time for some adjustments.
You have fuel pressure and it rises 1 to 1 with boost, right?
You switched to a proper weight of oil and have decent pressure ?

Buying the next big thing is not only expensive many of these innovations don't work. Use what you have. Get it running right and make ONE change at a time. More just leads you down a path of uncertainty.

Go enjoy your car. Wait til you break it , then you can "fix" it.

[YGspider]

No I understand, The only reason for it coming out is new motor mounts, paint and to freshen up the bay as well as a new rear main seal and new gaskets all around. As well as new control arm bushings. As for the scan master. I've always had high BLM's so I've been told by multiple guys who are very good with these cars to get a new Chip as 60 pound injector combo. That combo is on the way as we speak. I will be reporting back sometime this week about the new chip and injectors.