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I was wrong but now we are getting somewhere!
« on: August 16 2013, 06:00:12 PM »
I don't know how or why but this stuff destroyed my car. The engine is toast needs a rebuild. Never going to use that shiza again. I went over everything I've done to my car the only reason it started that noise was the 20-50 oil change that so many have used. Maybe a fresh motor is to tight for that oil? either way it did something.
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Re: VR1-20/50
« Reply #1 on: August 16 2013, 07:50:05 PM »
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Re: VR1-20/50
« Reply #2 on: August 16 2013, 08:57:31 PM »
what was your oil pressure
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Re: VR1-20/50
« Reply #3 on: August 16 2013, 09:41:21 PM »
With the VR-1 my idle was about 20 and cursing was steady depending on RPM's I may be wrong but I cant see what else happened after I changed the oil to cause the issue. I've driven myself near mad.. maybe It just happened.   
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Re: VR1-20/50
« Reply #4 on: August 16 2013, 09:48:02 PM »
My car did not care for 20/50... lifters took far too long to quiet down and I'm sure it took a little more "umph" to squeeze it through the oil pump but it did not destroy my motor  :O
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Re: VR1-20/50
« Reply #5 on: August 16 2013, 10:23:30 PM »
the only way that 20-50 would destroy an engine would be with a plugged by pass valve, a high volume pump, a sorry oil filter, and 100 psi oil pressure at start up.  Then one would expect a collapsed oil filter element and no oil pressure.

Otherwise, on a new engine, one can suspect poor machine work, a bad engine assembly, or an owner that went into boost with no scan tool to show timing retard and detonation, or one that did not understand what the scan tool was telling him.

No way can you blame it on 20-50 oil.  And, a properly built engine should never require heavier than 10-30 unless it was a race engine built with chevrolet clearances

20 psi of oil pressure on a new engine with 20-50 oil is awfully low for a properly built engine.  Sounds like the problem was already there.  I'll stick with the three causes in the second paragraph
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Re: VR1-20/50
« Reply #6 on: August 16 2013, 10:54:25 PM »
I toll him to phone me,but you know they don't listen o well.

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Re: VR1-20/50
« Reply #7 on: August 16 2013, 11:59:41 PM »
I will call you tomorrow , I was out tonight with friends. I have a feeling the motor was put together not to well. A lot of local rumors are circulated in regards to who built my motor . Also in regards to over boosting and running with out scan tools I've never done that shit. I've took nothing but care and respect in regards to this car... I've purchased a powerlogger and I've noticed two things the BLM's are 138 at idle and the 02's are too high to maintain a WOT pull so I've never been able to hold the pedal down pass 3000 RPM
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I'm wondering if the lifters collapsed. Either way this was not my fault and I agree I think the engine builder was very incompetent  :icon_eyes:
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: VR1-20/50
« Reply #8 on: August 17 2013, 12:05:54 AM »
the engine that David  (Just a Six) mentioned is looking pretty good right now
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Re: VR1-20/50
« Reply #9 on: August 17 2013, 05:46:47 AM »
Are you going to rebuild yours or are you going to buy another engine?
 
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Re: VR1-20/50
« Reply #10 on: August 17 2013, 06:37:22 AM »
Phone me at this number 905-447-9603 .

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Re: VR1-20/50
« Reply #11 on: August 17 2013, 08:45:12 AM »
did you prime the oil filter before you started it after your oil change?and why would you use such a heavy oil for?


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Re: VR1-20/50
« Reply #12 on: August 17 2013, 10:51:22 AM »
did you prime the oil filter before you started it after your oil change?and why would you use such a heavy oil for?

The first time I did the oil change I didn't prime the oil filter so that is the one mistake I made. And I heard lots of good things about VR-1 20-50 a lot of guys swear by it. The funny thing is my car still drives perfectly flawless and doesn't make any noise when load is on the car. It's hard to say what happen until I take it apart this winter. I'm going to bring the car to Roger tenant in Port Perry for the machine work.
 
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Re: VR1-20/50
« Reply #13 on: August 17 2013, 10:58:22 AM »
Your o2s and blms are in conflict from what your reported above.  Make sure that someone that understands these cars sorts thing out before you take it out after the engine is fixed
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Re: VR1-20/50
« Reply #14 on: August 17 2013, 11:25:27 AM »
Your o2s and blms are in conflict from what your reported above.  Make sure that someone that understands these cars sorts thing out before you take it out after the engine is fixed

I'm going to burn a new chip as well as get brand new injectors 60lb.. as of right now I don't know if the original owner matched the combo up right when he ordered the chip.
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