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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #30 on: October 05 2012, 05:56:58 PM »
mmmhmm - I have that problem too.

It was hard not putting the 150 jets in my car from the get go......

Got some ideas for the launch - going to test them out this weekend.


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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #31 on: October 11 2012, 12:08:13 PM »
Look at the little tit that sticks out of the fuel level float wire. (not electrical, the actual wire that the float hangs on). Buzz that as short as you can without the retainer being compromised. A small cutoff wheel would be the best way but only if the pump and screen isn't there of course.

  With that fatter pump, it's a hellovalot easier with that extra mm of clearance. Also, if you use hose clamps to mount the pump, make sure to clock them where they won't interfere with the installation.

I need to drop my tank and find out why I run out of gas before I'm actually out of gas. I suspect my filter sock curled up and sucks air too early.

Well, I go to drop the Denso pump in...see the black plastic nub sticking out of the resistor mechanism and of course the pump is large enuf to prevent me from tilting the hanger so the nub will clear the lip.  Thanks to Earl, I won't be on of those dumbasses, not named Earl, that notches the lip...Right?

Wrong-O!  My Dremel is dead and I could not find a small cut off wheel anyway...so color me a dumbass because I took my side cutters and clipped each side of an area a quarter inch wide and folded the lip of the tank inward....prob ably should have folded it upward for easier access to the tab when I folded it back in place...but, truth is, I just thought about that when I was typing this :(

Dropped the pump in and pulled the tab back up in place...THEN I noticed the big O-ring had shrunk and did not want to sit in the groove all the way around...an so far, stretching is not doing anything but exposing cracks in the o-ring as it still will not sit in the groove.  So I ordered an O-ring from Glen.

At least by taking two weeks to swap a fuel pump instead of the normal two hours to R&R, I am making Phil feel good!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

I hope I remember how to put the tank back in...

For those that are not masochists, this might be the way to go given the age of our sending units

http://www.racetronix.biz/itemdesc.asp?ic=FPS-G7W255&eq=&Tp=

Pump already installed and all the install parts you might need, it seems

Looks like a better designed float mechanism with regard to the wiper and the resistor plus one would not have to take it apart ten times to get all the excess resistance out of the device like I did
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #32 on: October 11 2012, 12:51:13 PM »
Even the great ones stumble sometimes. :D
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #33 on: October 11 2012, 01:42:19 PM »
all my jeans have worn out knees
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #34 on: October 11 2012, 01:47:36 PM »
all my jeans have worn out knees

That statement can be taken a few ways.  :hmm
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #35 on: October 11 2012, 02:30:45 PM »
I am old enuf not to care!  :D
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #36 on: October 11 2012, 03:46:19 PM »
Look at the little tit that sticks out of the fuel level float wire. (not electrical, the actual wire that the float hangs on). Buzz that as short as you can without the retainer being compromised. A small cutoff wheel would be the best way but only if the pump and screen isn't there of course.

  With that fatter pump, it's a hellovalot easier with that extra mm of clearance. Also, if you use hose clamps to mount the pump, make sure to clock them where they won't interfere with the installation.

I need to drop my tank and find out why I run out of gas before I'm actually out of gas. I suspect my filter sock curled up and sucks air too early.
just read this. Completed the pump swap in one day. By default, this the only thing i've one in thus far. :-)

Well, I go to drop the Denso pump in...see the black plastic nub sticking out of the resistor mechanism and of course the pump is large enuf to prevent me from tilting the hanger so the nub will clear the lip.  Thanks to Earl, I won't be on of those dumbasses, not named Earl, that notches the lip...Right?

Wrong-O!  My Dremel is dead and I could not find a small cut off wheel anyway...so color me a dumbass because I took my side cutters and clipped each side of an area a quarter inch wide and folded the lip of the tank inward....prob ably should have folded it upward for easier access to the tab when I folded it back in place...but, truth is, I just thought about that when I was typing this :(

Dropped the pump in and pulled the tab back up in place...THEN I noticed the big O-ring had shrunk and did not want to sit in the groove all the way around...an so far, stretching is not doing anything but exposing cracks in the o-ring as it still will not sit in the groove.  So I ordered an O-ring from Glen.

At least by taking two weeks to swap a fuel pump instead of the normal two hours to R&R, I am making Phil feel good!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

I hope I remember how to put the tank back in...

For those that are not masochists, this might be the way to go given the age of our sending units

http://www.racetronix.biz/itemdesc.asp?ic=FPS-G7W255&eq=&Tp=

Pump already installed and all the install parts you might need, it seems

Looks like a better designed float mechanism with regard to the wiper and the resistor plus one would not have to take it apart ten times to get all the excess resistance out of the device like I did
I just read this. Did mine in a day. The only thing I got on you so far.  :D
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #37 on: October 11 2012, 04:09:59 PM »
LOL

I never saw an o-ring that would not drop straight back in the groove around the opening...some how, this one got smaller altho it was in place when I pulled the pump out.  Maybe 26 years of age made it decide it was time to shrink?

the piece of hose that goes between the hanger and the pump is not standard fuel injection hose which cannot be submersed in gas and the hose that was on there was chewed up by the clamps after all these years...I am replacing the rubber hoses between the tank and the metal lines and I did not see them around here (you cannot use standard fuel line and be safe) so that was another order.  The filter that I bought when I bought the Denso was angled up and I did not like that so I had to order another filter...and so this job has gone...
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #38 on: October 11 2012, 05:02:36 PM »
That sucks. You didnt install the first go around? Figured that hose came with all new pumps. And all that sounds like a pain

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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #39 on: October 11 2012, 05:39:32 PM »
No, none came with the Denso and the filter when I bought them...

here, you can see the pump is quite a bit larger than the stock Walbro type

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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #40 on: October 11 2012, 08:29:19 PM »
I've never heard of an O-ring shrinking. Normally I'd say soak it in gas or mineral spirits to swell it out....    But I don't think gas would do it in this instance. :)


I'd get those black dots on your hand checked too. That can't be good (ESP if you're a lefty!)
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #41 on: October 11 2012, 09:03:55 PM »
I don't have a clue where those dots came from.   I think  the phone created them

well, that is wrong because they are not on the original pic...showed up after I downsized the file...
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #42 on: October 12 2012, 08:37:28 AM »
No, none came with the Denso and the filter when I bought them...

here, you can see the pump is quite a bit larger than the stock Walbro type


Damn that pump is HUGE!!!

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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #43 on: October 12 2012, 10:07:13 AM »
I'd get those black dots on your hand checked too. That can't be good (ESP if you're a lefty!)

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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #44 on: October 12 2012, 01:07:45 PM »
Steve is that the Supra pump? It's pretty damn big
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