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And discover that while I have a new in-tank harness and a new Denso pump, I don't have the usual short piece of submersible efi hose that goes between the pump and sending unit.  The one that is on the Red's XP pump that has been in the car 15 or more years is getting tired and needs to be replaced...

I pretty much muddled thru the in tank harness/bulkhead connector install with no instructions by using my meter

Then I realized the filter that I ordered to go with the pump had a 45 deg bend in the inlet which kicks the end of the filter up quite a bit from the bottom of the tank...

And that I did not have any hose clamps small enuf to hold the pump body against the return tube...

So the tank is on the floor, the guts are scattered around it and I am ordering more stuff...just another day in paradise
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #1 on: October 02 2012, 05:05:42 PM »
Damn Steve, your day sounds like my entire buick owning career!! Only difference is, you are the best at this shit so you don't like me when something goes wrong!!!

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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #2 on: October 02 2012, 05:16:46 PM »
LOL    I ain't the best by far...I just bumble along and get it done...sometim es faster than others...
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #3 on: October 02 2012, 06:50:04 PM »
Ahh!! That's why I got a foot of it (actually the only way Napa sold it ;) but that spare gas tank hose is labeled & stored neatly! Unlike the other 200 feet of Vac Hose in all sizes possible & available to buy from every store, jobber or vendor know to Mankind!!  :068:
 
Regular Vac hose lasted all of 36 hours soaking in the gas tank until it blew apart!!
That was a Valuable Lesson!!  :013:
 
Seems I also remember doing the same to an old 64ish? Merc (rear window was mounted on an inward angle) & was Power like all the rest of the windows! I guess it was for Convertible Wanna Be cars? That had some type of modulator on the trans that ran about 3" of Vac Hose from it to the trans. Lasted almost 36 hours hiway driving from Winnipeg to Vancouver one weekend when I was young & crazy!! Took the plates off the car & jumped on the next Greyhound Bus back home!!  :icon_eyes:
 
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #4 on: October 02 2012, 07:56:46 PM »
LOL

Yep, there is special hose for efi cars...and then there is special hose that can be submersed for efi cars...I got both on order

and it ain't cheap for either one...
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #5 on: October 02 2012, 08:52:23 PM »
LOL

Yep, there is special hose for efi cars...and then there is special hose that can be submersed for efi cars...I got both on order

and it ain't cheap for either one...

Think I paid with tax around $20 for the 12" peice??
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #6 on: October 02 2012, 09:55:39 PM »
that is about right

And, I see Jegs says no eta available...in sert appropriate cursing
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #7 on: October 02 2012, 10:07:38 PM »
so I just paid another $20 on ebay for a foot but it is in Austin so it will be here soon
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #8 on: October 02 2012, 10:29:36 PM »
Rock Auto sells hose pretty cheap - not sure exactly what type you are looking for, though.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?parttype=6352
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #9 on: October 02 2012, 10:52:50 PM »
submersible fuel injection hose SAE 30R10


You cannot put the standard efi hose in the tank because it will rapidly come apart in the gas....the covering is not resistant.

I bought this  Gates 27093 5/16" Submersible Fuel Hose
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #10 on: October 03 2012, 12:26:16 AM »
 Look at the little tit that sticks out of the fuel level float wire. (not electrical, the actual wire that the float hangs on). Buzz that as short as you can without the retainer being compromised. A small cutoff wheel would be the best way but only if the pump and screen isn't there of course.

  With that fatter pump, it's a hellovalot easier with that extra mm of clearance. Also, if you use hose clamps to mount the pump, make sure to clock them where they won't interfere with the installation.

I need to drop my tank and find out why I run out of gas before I'm actually out of gas. I suspect my filter sock curled up and sucks air too early.
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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #11 on: October 03 2012, 07:07:28 AM »
My gas gauge always reads between 3/4 and overfull. Had the pump out twice and didn't see anything suspicious.

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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #12 on: October 03 2012, 08:26:43 AM »
i just always thought they were suppose to be broke

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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #13 on: October 03 2012, 08:57:33 AM »
Mine worked fine til I put the Denso in.

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Re: So I go out today to install the Denso pump that I bought in the summer
« Reply #14 on: October 03 2012, 10:15:42 AM »
did you move the float up and down while checking the resistance?
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