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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #90 on: September 04 2012, 07:38:21 AM »
I wrote this on my FB wall yesterday:  "Starbuck's baristas would be envious of the concoction found in the bottom of my GN's Wix oil filter when we cut it open today...rich & black with thick caramel swirls and sparkly golden flakes throughout, all that was missing was some whip cream. Can't wait to see what this is going to cost me...awesome."




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« Reply #91 on: September 04 2012, 09:23:25 AM »
Damn!
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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #92 on: September 04 2012, 09:42:53 AM »
I wrote this on my FB wall yesterday:  "Starbuck's baristas would be envious of the concoction found in the bottom of my GN's Wix oil filter when we cut it open today...rich & black with thick caramel swirls and sparkly golden flakes throughout, all that was missing was some whip cream. Can't wait to see what this is going to cost me...awesome."

And this was his second try on this build?
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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #93 on: September 04 2012, 01:20:25 PM »
I wrote this on my FB wall yesterday:  "Starbuck's baristas would be envious of the concoction found in the bottom of my GN's Wix oil filter when we cut it open today...rich & black with thick caramel swirls and sparkly golden flakes throughout, all that was missing was some whip cream. Can't wait to see what this is going to cost me...awesome."

And this was his second try on this build?

Yeah...I haven't talked to him about this yet, I took the car to someone else.  On the advice and recommendation of others I decided to take the car to Chris Hogeland at Twisted 6 Racing.  He's on the tb.com forums and from everything I've read and heard he seems like he's very good with these cars.  Met him yesterday and I feel pretty good about it.  Most likely once he gets into it we're going to go in a different direction with the push rods, cam, etc. that's more align with current technology out there. 

Aside from the obvious priority of getting the motor running strong again, some other things I'm going to have done:

Replace the radiator and reconnect the engine and transmission oil coolers.
Fabricate a better retaining bracket/strap for some of the pre-luber lines.
Fabricate a better hangar strap for the exhaust near the race pipe.
Replace my electric oil pressure gauge with a mechanical gauge.
Install a hood mounted fuel pressure gauge.
Install an accessory fuse box.

Some things I might have done:

I have an ATR DP with a stock turbo housing, probably going to upgrade to a 3" DP.
I have a 1st generation SMC alcohol injection system, probably going to upgrade to a current system.

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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #94 on: September 04 2012, 03:45:37 PM »
I will buy your cast offs! :D
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« Reply #95 on: September 04 2012, 04:21:22 PM »
Gordy, if you want me too, I'll go through your timing cover for you.


If I can swing a PCB trip sometime soon maybe we can meet around the Dothan area.
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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #96 on: September 04 2012, 04:37:36 PM »
I will buy your cast offs! :D
Gordy, if you want me too, I'll go through your timing cover for you

I mentioned to him that I had gotten it from you and he said he was familiar with your work.

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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #97 on: October 27 2014, 07:31:26 PM »
Wow...it's been awhile since I posted here.  I got the '87 GN back and it's a beast.  Lots of fun.  I'm selling the '86 White T-Type...I don't have the time or energy for it.

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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #98 on: October 27 2014, 10:57:48 PM »
Glad it finally got straight!
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« Reply #99 on: October 28 2014, 09:47:24 PM »
Glad it finally got straight!

I'm still nervous with it after having been burned on the second motor.  I have a fresh motor and transmission.

This is basically what was done to it:

Twisted 6 Racing/Chris Hogeland Rebuild:  4340 Forged Stroker Crank, 4340 Forged 6" H-Beam Rods, Custom Roller Camshaft, Morel Roller Lifters, Custom Front Cover w/Oil Pump & Oil Pump Pickup Tube, Billet Main Caps, Custom Forged Pistons, Custom Ring Set, T&D 1.65 Roller Rockers, Custom Springs w/Lightweight Titanium Retainers for Roller Setup, 10° Locks for Springs, COMP Cams Valves, HD Valve Seals, SS Engine Bolts, Custom Trend Performance Push Rods, Billet Timing Chain, COMP Cam Internal Balancer, ARP Main Studs, MLS Head Gaskets, Push-Loc Vacuum Fittings, 3"  SS Downpipe, SS Waste Gate Actuator, Boost Controller, JW Flex Plate, HD Flex Plate Bolts, HD Water Pump, Intake Spacer, HD PCV, COMP Cam Oil Pan Gasket, COMP Cam Intake Gasket, COMP Cam Rear Main Seal, COMP Cam Header Gaskets, & COMP Cam Valve Cover Gaskets

Transmission:  Jason White (V6Racer) Stage II 200R4

Existing modifications:

AC Delco CD Player (part # 16085434) with wiring harness adapters
AEMC Digital EGT Monitor
Aluminum Brake Drums
ATR Adjustable Wastegate Actuator, Billet Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator, Charcoal Canister Relocation Kit, Driveshaft Loop, Heavy Duty Rear Sway Bar, Heavy Duty Transmission Pan, Polished SS MAF Pipe, Polished SS Throttle Body Inlet Pipe,  SS 1½” Headers,  SS 2½” Exhaust w/Pit Bull Mufflers, SS Crossover Pipe, SS Race Pipe, & Passenger Side Valve Cover Vent Kit
B&M Transmission Supercooler
Bill Ragland Custom Pre-Luber
Blistein Gas Shocks
Casper’s 3 Bar Map Sensor, Audible Knock Detector, Fan Harness GN to SPAL Fan, Headlight Brightener Harness, Heavy Duty Battery Positive Extender & Negative Battery Cable
Champion Ported Cast Iron Cylinder Head, GN1 Ported OEM Aluminum Intake Manifold, GN1 IAC Valve Adapter, CNC Series Buick Power 6 Valve Cover
Classictube SS 2 Piece Tank to Pump Line w/Inline Filter, SS Complete Brake Line, SS Emission Tube, SS Fuel Injection Feed Line Throttle Body Injection, SS Fuel Lines, SS Fuel Rail Feed, SS Fuel Rail Return Line, SS Transmission Line Kit, SS Vapor Line, & Stop Flex SS Braided Hose Kit
Conley 22 Row Intercooler
Cotton’s Performance Upgraded Rear Brakes
DC Tech Chromed Turbo Shield
Eibach Pro Kit Rate Springs
Full Throttle Speed 160° Thermostat, Dual Air Bag Kit, High Flow Water Pump, Power Logger, & Scanmaster Scan Tool
Gbodyparts Aluminum Bumper Supports, & 15” x 10” Grand National Wheels
HRpartsNstuff Poly Motor Mounts
K&N Air Filter
Kenne Bell Rear Seat BraceKirban’s Body Bolts, Engine Bay Mounted Front Brace Kit, GNX Body Bushings, Mechanical EFI Fuel Pressure Gauge Kit, Power Window Harness, Power Antenna Saver Wiring Kit, & Reproduction Body Bushings
Lo-Jack
Memphis Car Audio 3½” & 4”X10” Speakers
METCO Motorsports Adjustable Upper Control Arms, Lower Control Arms, Valve Cover Breathers, Billet Thermostat Housing, & Thermostat Clamp
Mickey Thompson ET Street Radial Tires P275/50R15
Pat’s Performance 10” Lock Up 2800 Stall Converter
Performance Instruments 6 Gauge White Faced Stewart Warner GNX Style Instrument Cluster
PST Polygraphite Performance Super Kit
PTE TA52 Turbo & Turbo Saver
R-134A Air Conditioner Conversion
Red Armstrong (Quad Air Inc.) XP Plus Fuel Pump
Replica Plastics Bumper Fillers (Rear)
RJC Billet Aluminum Pulleys, PCV, & Power Plate
RK Hi Performance Billet Relay Covers
SMC Alcohol Injection
SPAL Dual 11” (2,780 cfm) Pull Fans w/Shroud
SSBC Quick Change Aluminum Caliper Upgrade Kit & OE Replacement Rotors
Steadfast Column Guard
Steve Monroe’s 62mm Machined Throttle Body & Matching Plenum
Stewart Warner Hood Mounted Fuel Pressure Gauge
TA Performance Bearing Cap Studs & Rear End Girdle
TR Custom Parts Aluminum High Flow 3 Row Radiator w/Oil & Transmission Cooler
Turbo Tweak Chip & High Impedance 60lb/hr Injectors
Turbobuicks.co m 200 Amp Alternator
Viper 791 XV 2-Way Security & Remote Start
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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #100 on: October 28 2014, 10:05:58 PM »
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Re: Spitting black gobs out exhaust, INT 160, stuff in radiator...fun.
« Reply #101 on: October 28 2014, 11:32:58 PM »
Beautiful car...and a clean no expense spared build. :cheers: If it were my car, I wouldn't be trusting that old alky kit with that new engine.

May have missed it in the writeup...but what size turbo?
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« Reply #102 on: October 28 2014, 11:51:07 PM »
Beautiful car...and a clean no expense spared build. :cheers: If it were my car, I wouldn't be trusting that old alky kit with that new engine.

May have missed it in the writeup...but what size turbo?

Well, that old alcohol kit was practically rebuilt a couple years ago and it works.  But I will probably buy a new one at some point and have it installed.  I was actually surprised when Chris said no, it's fine the way it is...if it ain't broke don't replace it. 

PTE TA52 turbo

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« Reply #103 on: February 07 2015, 03:39:38 PM »
Beautiful car...and a clean no expense spared build. :cheers: If it were my car, I wouldn't be trusting that old alky kit with that new engine.

May have missed it in the writeup...but what size turbo?

Well, that old alcohol kit was practically rebuilt a couple years ago and it works.  But I will probably buy a new one at some point and have it installed.  I was actually surprised when Chris said no, it's fine the way it is...if it ain't broke don't replace it. 

PTE TA52 turbo

And if ain't one thing, it's another.

Started getting some haze, little puff of smoke from the exhaust after idling a bit or stopped while in traffic.  Doesn't smoke during normal course of driving and doesn't immediately start smoking when I stop.  Was fine most of the day today, until I got to downtown and traffic was crazy so I was sitting still quite awhile and she started smoking.

I'm guessing/hoping it's the turbo seal. 

So:
  • Check the  for oil in the pipe to the throttle body from the inter-cooler
  • Check the PCV
  • Check for back and forth movement of the turbo wheel
  • Take off the downpipe and check for oil in the exhaust housing side
God I hope that's it.  This thing is a giant money pit of Evil.

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« Reply #104 on: February 07 2015, 06:05:33 PM »
So I've done everything but take off the DP.  The throttle body and pipe looked dry.  When I opened the throttle and shined a light back beyond the blade it does have a shiny gleen to it back there.  I couldn't feel any play on the turbo wheel. 

 

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