Pending....

[SuperSix]

Tme is my biggest enemy right now. Might have to send car to the shop. 

May be cheaper to fly Steve in and get a few cases of PBR!

[Steve Wood]

I doubt it...when Phil says he does not have time to work on it...it translates to "I am afraid I might mess it up"   This ain't my first rodeo

[phil_long]

Tme is my biggest enemy right now. Might have to send car to the shop. 

May be cheaper to fly Steve in and get a few cases of PBR!

  I wish I could fly Steve here!!!  I'm sure he's too busy.  We dont have much farm land here, but we do have plenty of beer.
And Steve is absolutely right. That's a job thats above my skill level. If I had something else to drive, it wouldnt be that big of a deal.

[Steve Wood]

There is a reason why I tell everyone they need to own two of these things!

[phil_long]

There is a reason why I tell everyone they need to own two of these things!

Im about to be on the market for one in a second. Lol. I figured installing these injectors would be hard enough.  Now we talking about removing the front portion of the motor.  HA!!  Lmao.  This is nuts.

[phil_long]

BUT, truth be told, given the time I wouldnt mind taking thing apart. Worse thing could happen is it not working when i put it back together.  I was thinking of potentially taking some stuff apart day by day, but the wife don't like where the car is sitting right now. I don't have a cloaking device for it so i'm kind of screwed

[Steve Wood]

the injectors are very easy.

even worse is when you pay someone else to do the job and he screws it up........

[gnonyx]

Hi Phil, I have been reading on all of your threads and I know how it feels to be threaded of the unknown. This site and as well as TurboBuick.com has great mentors who can help and guide you through replacing timing chain, both sprockets, damper tensioner, cam button, and front seal if that's what is needs to done. When I did this job I read, ask many, many questions, and a must have; PATIENCE.
The other option is to see if other members in this board and/or in TurboBuick.com board, who lives near your area of St. Louis Mo. Maybe someone might be able to assist you in your repair.

[phil_long]

Hi Phil, I have been reading on all of your threads and I know how it feels to be threaded of the unknown. This site and as well as TurboBuick.com has great mentors who can help and guide you through replacing timing chain, both sprockets, damper tensioner, cam button, and front seal if that's what is needs to done. When I did this job I read, ask many, many questions, and a must have; PATIENCE.
The other option is to see if other members in this board and/or in TurboBuick.com board, who lives near your area of St. Louis Mo. Maybe someone might be able to assist you in your repair.

That would be great, but again, its not so much of the job as it is the time. Vacation days are limited and so are my weekends. This job IS intimidating(wont lie about that), but if i had the time, i KNOW i could do it. My wife's new hours at her school leaves me with the kids in the evening some days after work. I haven't been to Turbobuick.com in a while.  Maybe there could be someone there that could help, or point me towards a credible helping hand. My decision isn't completely finalized yet, seeing that I have not 100% confirmed the problem with the car.

[phil_long]

I think i might go ahead and do the damn work myself....

[phil_long]

Is it possible to varify that the car jumped timing by simly plugging in a cam tool? (i think thats the name of that piece).

[Steve Wood]

I told you to rotate the crank slowly and to watch the cam sensor window wheel to see it it turned smoothly with the crank or if it hesitated at times and then started turning again.

Also, if the compression is low, then that is a sign

[gnonyx]

Unfortunately Phil, that's the natural of these cars, one don't know until you dive in and examine the outcome. I don't know your car profile since there is nothing written in your Sig section. Many TR owners have replaced the timing components and mostly the cam nylon sprocket.
Some even replaced the nylon cam sprocket as early as 20,000 miles, since it's possible for sprocket teeth's to break off for many reason (stress, heat, age, etcs), and then do major damage to the engine. As Steve mention before remove the timing cam cap, have someone turn the engine over and closely, and carefully look at the cam disk window and see if it turns smoothly or does it hesitate as it turns. I saw your video, but that doesn't prove if the timing has jumped, or some of the cam sprocket teeth are missing, or broken off. When I replaced the timing components, I found one tooth broken off and that's one too many.
 
This type of work may look intimated, but you need to slowly take baby steps and when it doubt ask questions.
I know many mentor members on board are here to help others, especially SuperSix, Steve, PacecarTA, and many others.

[phil_long]

I told you to rotate the crank slowly and to watch the cam sensor window wheel to see it it turned smoothly with the crank or if it hesitated at times and then started turning again.

Also, if the compression is low, then that is a sign

This will be my next step. I DO have a silly question since you guys are being so helpful.  How do you get to the crank? The only thing i found on gnttype.org was a crankshaft bulletin.  Didnt direct me to the location, how to get it, etc. Thanks

[phil_long]

Unfortunately Phil, that's the natural of these cars, one don't know until you dive in and examine the outcome. I don't know your car profile since there is nothing written in your Sig section. Many TR owners have replaced the timing components and mostly the cam nylon sprocket.
Some even replaced the nylon cam sprocket as early as 20,000 miles, since it's possible for sprocket teeth's to break off for many reason (stress, heat, age, etcs), and then do major damage to the engine. As Steve mention before remove the timing cam cap, have someone turn the engine over and closely, and carefully look at the cam disk window and see if it turns smoothly or does it hesitate as it turns. I saw your video, but that doesn't prove if the timing has jumped, or some of the cam sprocket teeth are missing, or broken off. When I replaced the timing components, I found one tooth broken off and that's one too many.
 
This type of work may look intimated, but you need to slowly take baby steps and when it doubt ask questions.
I know many mentor members on board are here to help others, especially SuperSix, Steve, PacecarTA, and many others.

Ok, my patience is starting settle and I'm re-booting. I'll dig into it. Thanks a lot for the positivity and pep talk