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[Steve Wood]

I don't like them either (on Buicks with stock, or near stock cams)..but, if he bought a good one that won't stretch much, it will be okay. 

Get the new injectors and chip in there so you can run some more boost and it will go even better...

[earlbrown]

Does the guy that installed the double roller know enough to leave the tentioner off? (and if so, did you keep the parts in case you need them later?)

[phil_long]

i did keep the parts Earl!!! One thing i did do right. Lol. I can take pics of them. he said that he think this issue was cause to heat. (not that far off in my mind since i had the stock radiator in there since i had it and it had been running upwards of 220). I can ask him if he left the tensioner off(unless its something that i can see for myself). And, as i mentioned, he is the one responsible for the Cyclone. He knows a ton. I trust SOME of his input. Lol.

[phil_long]

I don't like them either (on Buicks with stock, or near stock cams)..but, if he bought a good one that won't stretch much, it will be okay. 

Get the new injectors and chip in there so you can run some more boost and it will go even better...

So, would a future solution be to get a cam that matches? AND, i cant wait to install those injectors and that chip. Im still in shock at how well the car runs with this stock setup(chip and injectors). Im finally coming alive folks.

[phil_long]

And to add, i believe the stock chip has the fan coming on at about 205? I got the new F-body radiator, and on the ride home, the car stayed around 192 on the highway, and in traffic, 203. I thought this was impressive seeing as with the stock rad/fan my car was running upwards of 215-220 regardless of the weather conditions. 

[phil_long]

when i got home, i opened the hood and the fan wasn't even running. That's a first for me as i was grinning from ear to ear

[Steve Wood]

The stock cam will run tens but I usually suggest one in the low elevens so I would say that a cam is not required any time soon

I am not sure if there was a difference in the fan turn on temp between the original chip and the later "emissions" chip that cam in later cars, but, I think the fan turned on at 197 on some of them.  I could go thru the chip dump on gnttype that TurboDave uploaded but maybe someone else has done it already

The timing gears are usually in danger of going once they get to a 100,000 miles, but, I think heat would be a definite contributor to failure.

I am glad to see you happy with the car.  Now you know why we think these things are so great.

[phil_long]

Cool. Thanks a bunch.  i know the TT chip that i have should cut on at 180* so I'm happy about that. I've always loved the car, even tho it's costing me and have it's hood up more than down. Lol

[daveismissing]

Interesting fact of the day: The stock chip turns on the fan at 197 degrees, off at 192

[Steve Wood]

Cool. Thanks a bunch.  i know the TT chip that i have should cut on at 180* so I'm happy about that. I've always loved the car, even tho it's costing me and have it's hood up more than down. Lol

Normally, the TT chip turns the fan on at 167.  If you asked him to raise it, it may be higher

[phil_long]

167? Dang. I didnt have him change it no. But, thats fine. the t-stat is a 180. 

[Steve Wood]

I am not sure the new 160 thermostats are worth a damn based upon some reports.  It is not cold enuf here for me to know yet on the two new ones I installed recently.  I am guessing they are from China and one or two have been reported to start opening around 145 degs instead of 158-162 as they should

[phil_long]

Oh wow. car would never heat up. Lol.

[Steve Wood]

There was a discussion on this by some of the Canucks...some one tried to claim that this was normal, but, that's not so.  They should normally open with in a couple of degs of the rating.

The guy in question was running in the 140's going down the road.  Cars need to be at least 160 to minimize engine wear.

[phil_long]

Makes sense