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[phil_long]

So, this has been on my mind.  My SM shows KR a lot more often than i would like(which is preferred 0) and it does it at the most odd of times.  Like, under acceleration, is it really possible to get 3.4 kr when you're not even in boost?  I think im going to get some teflon tape as suggested and just use the FP gauge I just bought to check the FP while driving.  My hotwire should be here on Wed. and this isn't all the time either.  sometimes i can get on it really good and nothing pops up until it shifts.  any thoughts?

[ULYCYC]

Teflon tape is for shower heads and toilet bowl feeds, don't use it on the car.   Use Loctite sealant with teflon or similar liquid automotive sealant

[phil_long]

.....or that!!  Thanks

[Steve Wood]

sounds like false detonation, Phil...knock sensor is hearing some other noise and calling it detonation

[phil_long]

guess i should keep searching.  I fixed the "knocking" issue yesterday.  I did find that the screw and bolt that goes to the back of the control module was missing.  But I personally cant hear anything rattling(of course since im driving it I wouldn't hear it anyway).  Is there anyway around that though?  As far as the "false" knock? Thanks

[SuperSix]

you need to start breaking that car down in quadrants, and examining everything you see.

[Steve Wood]

make sure the drivers side motor mount is not cracked...put the car in drive, e brake firmly on, pop the hood, get out and slowly move the throttle lever to increase the rpm to about 1200 rpm or so...stop before the wheels try to turn...watch the engine and see if the engine suddenly jumps up on the ds.

make sure the tranny lines are not rattling


Or, calibrate your ears to 6000 hz and screw your head into the knock sensor hole

[phil_long]

you need to start breaking that car down in quadrants, and examining everything you see.

in the process of that now

[phil_long]

make sure the drivers side motor mount is not cracked...put the car in drive, e brake firmly on, pop the hood, get out and slowly move the throttle lever to increase the rpm to about 1200 rpm or so...stop before the wheels try to turn...watch the engine and see if the engine suddenly jumps up on the ds.

make sure the tranny lines are not rattling


Or, calibrate your ears to 6000 hz and screw your head into the knock sensor hole

Sounds easy enough.

[Steve Wood]

so does living with women

[motorhead]

Easiest way to test for false knock is: octane. Put lots in and stand on it... if the KR is still present you are on the hunt. If not, you need to do a tune-up of either your air, fuel or spark... or all three in some cases.

I just had to pull 7 degrees of timing out of the tune in our TBSS due to KR at MBT (maximum brake torque) on 91 octane w/11:1 CR. It is only running 14-15* timing at peak torque now; it then progressively phases back to 21-22* at peak horsepower. I also turned off burst knock too... which is a calculated timing retard event based on load, but, that is a story for another day.

[phil_long]

so does living with women

this is true, although i seem to still have all my hair...but im only a year and a half in so i guess that has no merit. 

[phil_long]

Easiest way to test for false knock is: octane. Put lots in and stand on it... if the KR is still present you are on the hunt. If not, you need to do a tune-up of either your air, fuel or spark... or all three in some cases.

I just had to pull 7 degrees of timing out of the tune in our TBSS due to KR at MBT (maximum brake torque) on 91 octane w/11:1 CR. It is only running 14-15* timing at peak torque now; it then progressively phases back to 21-22* at peak horsepower. I also turned off burst knock too... which is a calculated timing retard event based on load, but, that is a story for another day.

I need to do a tune up anyway.  Couldn't hurt.  Keep ya guys posted on my progress though. 

[Steve Wood]

What is a tune up on a Regal other than new plugs?

[Just a Six?]

What is a tune up on a Regal other than new plugs?

Air filter. My Denali was setting a code under heavy acceleration (basically flooring it) & the air filter guage read 40% dirty. I took it out for a minute & code went away.
Still need to grab a new one for the BPG haul.
 
I know it was a trick question but this may apply?