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Re: It's On!
« Reply #90 on: November 26 2011, 10:09:33 AM »
Got the needed parts ordered. I thought I had everything, I don't.

Ordered a 208/208 cam, lifters and Rollmaster timing chain from Full Throttle SPeed.
Ordered GM head gaskets and front crank seal from NOS4GN
Ordered motor mounts and front cover gasket set from Rock Auto

I had purchased a NOS GM front cover, after Earl told me mine was Chinese shit, I am off to port and prep that today.

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Re: It's On!
« Reply #91 on: November 26 2011, 10:16:42 AM »
If you ordered the Comp Cam lifters...you mite find 'em a tad noisy. What brand is the 208/208 cam FT sells?
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Re: It's On!
« Reply #92 on: November 26 2011, 11:07:12 AM »
If you ordered the Comp Cam lifters...you mite find 'em a tad noisy. What brand is the 208/208 cam FT sells?

No idea what brand the cam or lifters are.From what I read - the lifters they sell aren't the "clicky" ones..
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Re: New 87 GN (Topic merged with "It's On!" post)
« Reply #93 on: November 27 2011, 10:29:02 AM »
I've got Comp Cam lifters in this current engine between the frame rails...and I've been pounding the snot outta it for 2 years now. When we swapped intakes on it a couple weeks back I checked the lifters...and they appear to be wearing normally.
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Re: New 87 GN (Topic merged with "It's On!" post)
« Reply #94 on: November 29 2011, 04:12:07 PM »
Got the needed parts ordered. I thought I had everything, I don't.

Ordered a 208/208 cam, lifters and Rollmaster timing chain from Full Throttle SPeed.
Ordered GM head gaskets and front crank seal from NOS4GN
Ordered motor mounts and front cover gasket set from Rock Auto
I had purchased a NOS GM front cover, after Earl told me mine was Chinese shit, I am off to port and prep that today.

Got the front cover ported  - Pics below.

Seems there was some sort of booster plate on the motor - I can't ID it. I don't want to use it, per earl and Steve's recommendation - but that means I now have to source shorter bolts for the housing.

Anyone know who made this?


Porting pics:


'87 GN, 60lb, TA49, THDP, FTP cam, T+ lots o' shit - SOLD
'07 Ford F150 Lariat 2WD, 5.4L 3v - 255k
'20 Kubota BX2380. FEL, 60" deck
'78 IH/Case 184 Lo-Boy
'99 Kawasaki Bayou 400 4x4

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Re: New 87 GN (Topic merged with "It's On!" post)
« Reply #95 on: November 29 2011, 04:34:26 PM »
Got the needed parts ordered. I thought I had everything, I don't.

Ordered a 208/208 cam, lifters and Rollmaster timing chain from Full Throttle SPeed.
Ordered GM head gaskets and front crank seal from NOS4GN
Ordered motor mounts and front cover gasket set from Rock Auto
I had purchased a NOS GM front cover, after Earl told me mine was Chinese shit, I am off to port and prep that today.

Got the front cover ported  - Pics below.

Seems there was some sort of booster plate on the motor - I can't ID it. I don't want to use it, per earl and Steve's recommendation - but that means I now have to source shorter bolts for the housing.

Anyone know who made this?


Porting pics:




Got the front cover ported  - Pics below.

Seems there was some sort of booster plate on the motor - I can't ID it. I don't want to use it, per earl and Steve's recommendation - but that means I now have to source shorter bolts for the housing.

Anyone know who made this?


Porting pics:



Got the needed parts ordered. I thought I had everything, I don't.

Ordered a 208/208 cam, lifters and Rollmaster timing chain from Full Throttle SPeed.
Ordered GM head gaskets and front crank seal from NOS4GN
Ordered motor mounts and front cover gasket set from Rock Auto
I had purchased a NOS GM front cover, after Earl told me mine was Chinese shit, I am off to port and prep that today.

Got the front cover ported  - Pics below.

Seems there was some sort of booster plate on the motor - I can't ID it. I don't want to use it, per earl and Steve's recommendation - but that means I now have to source shorter bolts for the housing.

Anyone know who made this?


Porting pics:





The booster plate is probably a Melling.
Home Depot for the bolts.

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Re: New 87 GN (Topic merged with "It's On!" post)
« Reply #96 on: November 29 2011, 05:19:30 PM »
Do you know the correct length I need? I would rather not cut the bolts...
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Re: New 87 GN (Topic merged with "It's On!" post)
« Reply #97 on: November 29 2011, 05:45:03 PM »
It's a Sealed Power (Melling?) Oil pump repair plate. Not sure why they used it - the cover wasn't scored much at all.
http://www.rockauto.com/dbphp/x,catalog,8,partnum,224518TP,d,SEALED_POWER_224518TP.html

Wow.. Part image fail: http://www.amazon.com/Sealed-Power-224518TP-Pump-Repair/dp/compatibility-chart/B000CPJKN6

5-6 sites have a pic of a brake line. Dumbasses.
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Re: New 87 GN (Topic merged with "It's On!" post)
« Reply #98 on: November 29 2011, 10:18:32 PM »
It's used to "repair" the pump when you're to lazy to smooth the adapter. Very common to use them in the industry. Before you go shopping for new bolts see how far they'll screw in. You may not need new ones.
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Re: New 87 GN (Topic merged with "It's On!" post)
« Reply #99 on: November 30 2011, 08:14:00 AM »
Got it.
'87 GN, 60lb, TA49, THDP, FTP cam, T+ lots o' shit - SOLD
'07 Ford F150 Lariat 2WD, 5.4L 3v - 255k
'20 Kubota BX2380. FEL, 60" deck
'78 IH/Case 184 Lo-Boy
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Re: New 87 GN (Topic merged with "It's On!" post)
« Reply #100 on: December 01 2011, 11:47:09 PM »
You need (5) 1/4-20 X 1" and (1) 1/4-20 X 1-1-1/2.
 

And of course, there's a trick. You'll noticed the long bolts you have are small headed bolts with a built in washer. A normal 1/4 bolt will have a head too big to actuate with a wrench or a socket.

or you could just get one of my pimp ass SS socket head cap screw timing cover kits and be done with it :)
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Re: New 87 GN (Topic merged with "It's On!" post)
« Reply #101 on: December 01 2011, 11:53:14 PM »
You need (5) 1/4-20 X 1" and (1) 1/4-20 X 1-1-1/2.

And of course, there's a trick. You'll noticed the long bolts you have are small headed bolts with a built in washer. A normal 1/4 bolt will have a head too big to actuate with a wrench or a socket.

or you could just get one of my pimp ass SS socket head cap screw timing cover kits and be done with it :)

Pimp that ass Earl. :O :icon_lol:
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Re: New 87 GN (Topic merged with "It's On!" post)
« Reply #102 on: December 01 2011, 11:56:23 PM »
It's all about the pimp, Charlie
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Re: New 87 GN (Topic merged with "It's On!" post)
« Reply #103 on: December 02 2011, 12:49:07 AM »
It's all about the pimp, Charlie

You and my nephew would get along great Earl. LOL :O
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Re: New 87 GN (Topic merged with "It's On!" post)
« Reply #104 on: December 02 2011, 11:27:27 AM »
The clearances were good, not great.

Drive gear side clearance - .0035 - good
End clearance - .007 - a bit over
Gear height .871 and .872
Gear pocket diameter - 1.673 - good

The gaskets, as close as I could measure them are:
FelPro - .0075 and the KB booster plate gasket is .008.
I have a new FelPro gasket set coming in today, I assume the gasket will be the same thickness.

What do you recommend I do to get the recommended .002 - .0025 clearance?

'87 GN, 60lb, TA49, THDP, FTP cam, T+ lots o' shit - SOLD
'07 Ford F150 Lariat 2WD, 5.4L 3v - 255k
'20 Kubota BX2380. FEL, 60" deck
'78 IH/Case 184 Lo-Boy
'99 Kawasaki Bayou 400 4x4

 

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