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Phoenix Injector brake bleeder
« on: April 12 2011, 07:41:32 PM »
I bought a kit sometime back...decided to give it a try while ago.  Damn thing works pretty well.  I bled the  fronts from the calipers backwards and talked on the phone with one hand while I pumped with the other...seems to do what they claim...have to do the rears again because the pedal does not feel right.  Hope it is not that new rebuilt Cardone master cylinder I installed last summer.

Never has felt as hard as I think it should
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Re: Phoenix Injector brake bleeder
« Reply #1 on: April 12 2011, 08:03:29 PM »
Quote from: "Steve Wood @ Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:41 pm"
I bought a kit sometime back...decided to give it a try while ago.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12 2011, 09:01:43 PM »
I need a good bleeder kit. Brakes on the TR has been soft ever since I did the vac swap.

I will look into this one.
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« Reply #4 on: April 12 2011, 09:55:01 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: April 12 2011, 11:25:05 PM »
pretty simple to use...but it can be used in a reverse injection method, or as a pressure method from the master cylinder, or as a vacuum technique.  Kit I bought has lots of fittings, etc in it...there is a cheaper one that has the gun and a few other things which is probably fine.
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Re: Phoenix Injector brake bleeder
« Reply #6 on: April 13 2011, 02:46:34 PM »
Quote from: "Steve Wood @ Tue 12 Apr, 2011 17:41"
talked on the phone with one hand while I pumped with the other...seems to do what they claim. Never has felt as hard as I think it should




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Re: Phoenix Injector brake bleeder
« Reply #7 on: April 13 2011, 04:37:57 PM »
Thank you for your consideration :bigeyes;
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« Reply #8 on: April 13 2011, 04:42:28 PM »
Quote from: "Steve Wood @ Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:48 pm"
believe this was the version I bought

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Phoenix-Reverse-Fluid-Injection-Brake-Clutch-Bleeder-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1e5b085ab2QQitemZ130376293042QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools#ht_1635wt_1167


I've often wondered about those reverse bleeders.  Do you have to have someone up at the reservoir to remove excess that you pump in??

Reverse bleeding seems to be the way to go though.  

Do you worry about air getting sucked into the system around the bleeder screw threads?
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« Reply #9 on: April 13 2011, 04:53:46 PM »
I'll be buying one if I need to bleed my brakes again. I used speed bleeders last time and they worked great.
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Re: Phoenix Injector brake bleeder
« Reply #10 on: April 13 2011, 05:13:26 PM »
The added advantage is it is sometimes is the only way to bleed a hydraulic clutch. We used to have a hell of a time getting any clutch pedal after master/slave cylinder. The Phoenix Injector does em in no time. Sounds like a commercial. :D An additonal note, I had to rebuild my 3 times, seal kits are available. It seems some brake fluids get contaminated and when you don't use the tool for a couple months it messes up the seals. If you loan it to somebody and they think they can use it for siphoning a power steering reservoir, you'll need a a reseal kit.

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Re: Phoenix Injector brake bleeder
« Reply #11 on: April 13 2011, 06:10:07 PM »
Dave, it is adjustable from 1 to 12.5 cc a pump so it is not necessary to have someone up top....does not take long to figure out when it might be full.  If you follow their instructions, you can pump out the old fluid and measure how many ccs it held...then the bottle you use to fill from is calibrated in ccs so you can figure out how much you have pumped.

because you are pumping into the bleeder, if anything, it tends to push fluid out around the threads a little rather than suck air in....when you disconnect, let it gravity bleed for a second to push any bubble out right at the bleeder.

As Gary said, I have heard they are really good on the clutches.
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« Reply #12 on: April 15 2011, 08:01:05 PM »
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:01 pm"
I need a good bleeder kit. Brakes on the TR has been soft ever since I did the vac swap.

I will look into this one.


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