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I feel bad for Glen
« on: March 24 2011, 10:21:24 AM »
He's gone and stepped on all those sensitive yellaboard toes

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/zddp-plus-and-vr-1.343344/

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« Reply #1 on: March 24 2011, 10:39:08 AM »
Well, Glen is correct...any one that spends enuf time reading will know that universally added zddp is not needed.

The requirement depends upon the amount of zddp in the oil being used as well as the spring pressure being applied to the cam.

If one reads all the articles out there that started the scare, one notices that they were talking about high performance cams with very high spring pressures...no t cams like ours...and imported lifters that were not properly hardened.

What we see in play here is a vendor and a bulletin board that are in collusion with one another to sell a product.

It is strange that we don't see a tremendous rash of failures from all those that have not been "enlightened" as to the miraculous benefits of excessive zddp.   Maybe those GM engineers and oil company  engineers are really stupid, but, the data do not support that.

Every one and their uncle is selling zddp enriched oils these days...I see Edelbrock is the latest to jump on the bandwagon...ce rtainly no reason to buy magic in a bottle that may actually upset the chemical balance in the original oil.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24 2011, 10:57:05 AM »
Glen is right and his girls are hot :cool;
Here is some reading http://www.blackstone-labs.com/Newsletters/Gas-Diesel/November-1-2010.php
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« Reply #3 on: March 24 2011, 11:27:00 AM »
The next big product for the Buick market will be zddp enriched Kool-Aid.  It will increase the urea in your urine and allow you to pee directly into your diesel's gas tank to reduce emissions.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24 2011, 11:30:03 AM »
I eat extra asparagus for that effect :rolleyes:
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« Reply #5 on: March 24 2011, 12:21:40 PM »
Wow...I just read that thread.  If it's not curtailed, that thread is destined to be one of those "epic" ugly "fail" threads.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24 2011, 01:20:51 PM »
Scott Keller from gnttype doesn't put zddp in his unopened stock long block t, and has raced it exclusively for years. couple others in the local club with mostly stock or all stock high mile gns don't use it either. I've had this discussion with them before and they all told me I'd be the first one they'll report to when they have any type of valve train failure. lol!
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« Reply #7 on: March 24 2011, 01:26:20 PM »
Here is a great write-up, timeline and myth buster about the subject http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/tech/oil/index.html
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« Reply #8 on: March 24 2011, 01:47:18 PM »
Who is "Glen"?  And Micale and others have their panties in a bunch because someone is suggesting that the additive that Clark sells isn't needed and/or can cause damage?
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« Reply #9 on: March 24 2011, 01:54:02 PM »
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:47 pm"
Who is "Glen"?
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« Reply #10 on: March 24 2011, 01:57:50 PM »
Quote from: "ULYCYC @ Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:54 pm"
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:47 pm"
Who is "Glen"?
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« Reply #11 on: March 24 2011, 02:08:38 PM »
Glen is a good guy. Get his banner up.
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« Reply #12 on: March 24 2011, 02:53:03 PM »
Tell him to send it to me, and I will.
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« Reply #13 on: March 24 2011, 04:55:21 PM »
yes, Glen is a straight shooter and a good guy.  

This kinda crap is the reason I don't post over there.
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« Reply #14 on: March 24 2011, 05:08:43 PM »
Good to know. When I get Sylvan's POS, I will have to get friendly with Glen. :P
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