Avoiding the LS

[daveismissing]

Speedtalk was discussing how to build a gutsy street motor that isn't LS. I thought this summed it up nicely:

...Just kidding, the beauty of the LS to me is what is available to you in stock form. Once outside of that, they lose their glam. As far as your 455/455 example. That can be done with Gen 1 vortec heded stuff pretty easily, mostly using stock parts and inches.  The driveability factor you mention has way more to with the LS engine management system, than the engine itself.

[nocooler]

All the older iron is getting hard to find. Anything good has been used up, scrapped, hoarded, or needs serious attention.
The LS is an amazing piece, it's readily available, and fits may peoples budget. 
It's nice to have options.
I get it, it gets old seeing the same damn LS under the hood of everything but, it just works. 
Show me a stock bottom end small block ford/chevy/dodge that makes 450rwhp with factory casting heads, is pump gas friendly, and lives for more than a season at a time. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's going to need a lot more work to get there. 
You know which one I'd pick

[daveismissing]

Not slagging you Jeremy, you were an early adopter .  The sheeple get repetitive.

[TexasT]

What he said. The young fellows don't have much of a choice. The wrecking yards are littered with ls and little else for v8. They make mad power and are easy to swap with all the mounts out there now . The hptuners can do the stock computer and if you have bigger budget there are plenty of stand alone stuff and the niftier stuff does the trans too. 

[Scoobum]

I think that guy is on the other board with the 455. Mr Spool is looking after him.

[daveismissing]

My mechanic friend is putting a 6 banger back into one of his darts just for the differentiatio n.

[Steve Wood]

That damn inline, offset mopar 6 will run with the right hands on it...Back in the sixties, it took down a lot of 383 and bigger....I wouldn't mind having one

[Scoobum]

Plenty of those 6 bangers on YouTube with hop up parts on them.

[Steve Wood]

In 1965 when I took my car to the track most week ends, there were two cars that dominated the stock classes.   One was a slant six Dart and the other was a '58 Pontiac with mechanical fuel injection.  Both of them were a second faster than anything in their classes and they both  would win their classes and go a long way toward winning it all every week.

[Scoobum]

Here ya' go Steve. The 64 is ready to race...and both are pocket change with the exchange rate.


https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/city-of-toronto/1967-valiant/1498090850?undefined


https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/kingston-on/1964-plymouth-valiant/1493441897?undefined


P.S. Both are within 2 hours of me.