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Tech Area => General Buick Tech => Topic started by: Shimy87 on July 30 2015, 07:49:18 AM

Title: posi question
Post by: Shimy87 on July 30 2015, 07:49:18 AM
New issue....this year when I screw around a do a burnout 30% of the time only one tire spins?? Whats causing this  :O
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Steve Wood on July 30 2015, 02:54:48 PM
sounds like the posi needs to be rebuilt...clut ches are worn out, I would guess
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Shimy87 on July 30 2015, 04:09:42 PM
Stupid question....is that a DIY job. I'll have to do a you tube search :D
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Steve Wood on July 30 2015, 05:20:23 PM
I did my own but you might be better off having a shop doing it if you don't have dial indicators, etc to check clearances with.  I just swapped  a new Eaton HD into mine but I had to shim it for clearance and such.  You tube will be better at explaining than me
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Scoobum on July 30 2015, 09:28:27 PM
I did my own but you might be better off having a shop doing it if you don't have dial indicators, etc to check clearances with.  I just swapped  a new Eaton HD into mine but I had to shim it for clearance and such.  You tube will be better at explaining than me

Steve...in theory...if you replace the shims the way they came out...should all not be well? What backlash did you set yours at? I had a Pro Stock drag racer set mine up...and he gave it a couple more thousands of an inch over stock.
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Pyro6 on July 30 2015, 09:39:07 PM
In theory, if you're only replacing the clutches, reuse the shims in their same spot. If you're going to do side bearings, pinion bearing or housing change, the setup needs to be redone.
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Charlief1 on July 30 2015, 10:59:20 PM
If I remember right, you don't need to pull the carrier to do the clutches.
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Shimy87 on July 30 2015, 11:17:22 PM
I cant find any " how to" info for doing the clutches and I think that is all I need to do. Car only has 60000 on it. Dosent make any noises, just wont spin both tires every now and then.
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: earlbrown on July 31 2015, 01:14:58 AM
If you use the posi additive, get rid of it and see if that fixes your issue.

And keep in mind if one tire has more traction than the other, you can still get 'right tire fire' even if everything is in spec.


The difference it takes to break the axles free from each other is only 60ft/# with a torque wrench hung on a lug stud.
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Shimy87 on July 31 2015, 09:11:56 AM
Ive never had it apart or added anything. When it spins one its the left that spins.
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Just a Six? on July 31 2015, 10:42:18 AM
If I remember right, you don't need to pull the carrier to do the clutches.

I never did & the only hard part was removing & installing the Spring Clips. The rest is pretty simple just put them back in the same as they came out. Probably a Tech article on turbobuicks from the old days. I ordered mine thru Bill Savino way back then.
Make sure to add a drain plug in your cover so it's not so messy next time!
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Steve Wood on July 31 2015, 10:55:37 AM
Brad, I don't remember...I changed the bearings as well as I went to a 30 spline axle and unit
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: earlbrown on July 31 2015, 04:40:18 PM
Ive never had it apart or added anything. When it spins one its the left that spins.

Now that's just odd.   Engine torque pushes down on the LR and tried to lift the RR.   Not to mention, the drivers side of the car is heavier.
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Shimy87 on July 31 2015, 05:07:58 PM
I know. Last time it happened it left a strip 40 feet long and nothing on the pass side. I better take cover off and see whats going on in there. Cant be that complicated :icon_eyes:
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: earlbrown on July 31 2015, 08:18:30 PM
Pulling the cover is easy enough.


Clean off the magnet and refill with non synthetic with NO posi additive.     Do a few figure 8's in a parking lot to coat the clutches with fresh jizz, then see if anything changes.

If you're lucky the rear end will chatter when making sharp turns.


Isn't your car fairly low mileage?
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Shimy87 on July 31 2015, 10:43:45 PM
Ill give it a try, thanks!!!  Its got 60, 000 so not that many
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Shimy87 on August 07 2015, 09:46:11 PM
Back from vacation so can look into car. Any oil brand better for this or just any non synthetic is fine?  Thanks!!
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: earlbrown on August 07 2015, 09:55:15 PM
Cheapest stuff you can buy.  This is more of an experiment and inspection than a fix.



...and with any luck, it'll be a fix.
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Scoobum on August 07 2015, 09:56:34 PM
I've got an Auburn Pro Series in my car. I run over the counter rear diff lube...and additive...whi ch was recommended by Auburn.
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: williambavila on August 08 2015, 08:06:05 PM
I am pretty sure you can do it in the car. I believe you pop the little pin out then slide the big pin and remove the right axle. then rotate the spider gears out being sure to put them back in the same spot. after that I am pretty sure you can get to the clutches after taking out the spiders
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Scoobum on August 08 2015, 08:11:35 PM
Shimy...while yer' at it...toss a set of Moser axles in. They're cheap insurance.
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: motorhead on August 08 2015, 11:39:54 PM
http://www.gbodyparts.com/product_info.php?products_id=1813 (http://www.gbodyparts.com/product_info.php?products_id=1813)
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Charlief1 on August 09 2015, 12:58:50 AM
http://www.gbodyparts.com/product_info.php?products_id=1813 (http://www.gbodyparts.com/product_info.php?products_id=1813)
Directions of how to do it without taking the carrier out are on the site, as well as the upgraded spring (300 lb) for the posi.
Title: Re: posi question
Post by: Shimy87 on August 09 2015, 11:09:33 PM
Changed out the oil. Took it out for a test. 4 out of 4 spun both....guess ill just run her :rock:
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