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Title: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: Scoobum on July 16 2014, 07:07:38 PM
Opinions wanted. I have a decision to make. I have the rotating assembly out of the block with the cracked cylinder. I have a standard bore block. One of the .030 over pistons is scrap...was damaged from the crack in the cylinder. Do I purchase a new .030 over piston and have this block bored .030 over for the this rotating assembly...or do I toss the 5 remaining .030 over pistons and order new .010 overs...as I'm positive this block will 'clean' at .010 over.
Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: Steve Wood on July 16 2014, 08:25:44 PM
If you don't mind spending the money, I would probably go +10 so the block could be redone again in 20 years :D
Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: Scoobum on July 16 2014, 08:56:50 PM
If you don't mind spending the money, I would probably go +10 so the block could be redone again in 20 years :D

That was my thot. Piston recommendation that can handle 10.90 all day? Think the .030's are TRW's.
Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: Steve Wood on July 16 2014, 09:17:11 PM
I think Mike is selling Diamond pistons and they are good.  We used to go JE for  top end stuff.  Wiseco was good. Probe sells some I think.

TRW are good value for the money and we liked them because the alloy did not expand as much so they could be fit tighter and the rings lasted a long time. They are heavier but if you use the light pin and rebalance, they are good for the money.  No problem for 10.90.

Paul is probably a good up to date source.
Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: motorhead on July 16 2014, 09:46:54 PM
10 over.  Keep the meat, up the boost.
Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: larrym on July 16 2014, 10:28:23 PM
yes .010 would be my thought too weisco is the most cost effective the have an office in ontario i talked to them when I was putting together my short block.
Ended up going with used diamonds the TRWs are less but you have to go .030




Wiseco Piston Canada

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519-537-6281
Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: earlbrown on July 17 2014, 01:51:24 AM
I can make you some forged 5 overs if you want and be a hellovalot better than TRWs
Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: tb3 on July 18 2014, 08:02:51 AM
Go 10 over and make some of these with your 30's for around the house

Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: Just a Six? on July 18 2014, 12:31:09 PM
I can make you some forged 5 overs if you want and be a hellovalot better than TRWs

I did that to my last rebuild which I ended up selling to a friend. They were CP 5 overs from Nick at Arizona GN. I figured that it was better long run to save all the meat I could for a future rebuild.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: dyermullet on July 24 2014, 10:06:04 PM
Not to hijack but is there an available option for 0.005" over pistons?  And are rings easily available for 5tho over and 10 tho over?   I PM'd earl brown on the other board asking what became of his custom piston project but he didn't respond.
Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: earlbrown on July 25 2014, 01:03:11 AM
Since we run larger than normal ring gaps, a set of 'filt to fit' STD would work fine in a .005" over.

when did you PM me?
Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: earlbrown on July 25 2014, 01:04:11 AM

I did that to my last rebuild which I ended up selling to a friend. They were CP 5 overs from Nick at Arizona GN. I figured that it was better long run to save all the meat I could for a future rebuild.  :cheers:

It's also a good money saver as you don't have to pay for boring, just a hone job.
Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: dyermullet on July 25 2014, 10:30:50 AM

I did that to my last rebuild which I ended up selling to a friend. They were CP 5 overs from Nick at Arizona GN. I figured that it was better long run to save all the meat I could for a future rebuild.  :cheers:

It's also a good money saver as you don't have to pay for boring, just a hone job.

That is what I am thinking.  I will not be building this car for all out racing.

How about ring availability for 0.010" over?  In all my years of owning and following the turbo regals I just mostly skipped over the hardcore buick v6 engine details.  I was more concerned with tuning and enjoying.  And since I knew it wasn't as easy as a chevy or ford I just assumed I would learn about it when I got there.
Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: earlbrown on July 25 2014, 02:30:51 PM
There's plenty of rings in 3.810" all thickness are covered.
Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: dyermullet on July 25 2014, 02:37:05 PM
Since we run larger than normal ring gaps, a set of 'filt to fit' STD would work fine in a .005" over.

when did you PM me?
http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr337/87buickregal/piston_zpsf6aa4ee0.jpg (http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr337/87buickregal/piston_zpsf6aa4ee0.jpg)
Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: dyermullet on July 25 2014, 02:38:33 PM
There's plenty of rings in 3.810" all thickness are covered.

great.  Now that I got home from getting called into work.  I hope to take a look at the engine today.
Title: Re: Bore it .010 or .030
Post by: earlbrown on July 26 2014, 04:27:57 AM
Since we run larger than normal ring gaps, a set of 'filt to fit' STD would work fine in a .005" over.

when did you PM me?
http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr337/87buickregal/piston_zpsf6aa4ee0.jpg (http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr337/87buickregal/piston_zpsf6aa4ee0.jpg)

that makes sense I haven't been on the other board in a couple weeks. I decided to go outside and work on my GN instead of laying on the couch and talk about other peoples TR's.  lol

at any rate the pistons are done and ready to go, I just haven't announced them since I'm trying to put my car back to turn key roadworthy, bang new chicks and do some home improvements around the house.

If you need a set I can fix you up, but you need to get a bore gauge in your block to see where they clean up at first.  Without an accurate OD, we would just be throwing darts.
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