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Title: what yall think?
Post by: Turbogn86 on February 26 2006, 08:21:30 PM
so i have been missing on here for a while lieing low. the car was running as u might guess so i had no time for the computer. haha. well i had a lifter ticking so i pull the intake manifold and got to looking at it and it just isent what i want it to be. so i think i am going to get it ported along with the heads? any suggestions?  :rock:
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: Recklessrob on February 27 2006, 02:55:13 AM
Champion Racing heads, also port intakes. It was
like $265 with an exchange last time I looked.
Probably not worth doing on a street car though.
Do you have an RJC power plate ? Those are
good bang for the buck.
Title: what yall think?
Post by: 87natty on February 27 2006, 04:14:59 PM
I'd say Power Plate and the Precision upper plenum, if that.
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: Turbogn86 on February 27 2006, 05:02:26 PM
if he charges close the 265 for the intake i will get Champion ported stocker. but does anyone do the heads for a decent price, like champion or anything? i just want my stock heads ported... im shopping around, lol. but yes the power plate is a must. y do u say the ported intake isent for a street car?
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: DCEPTCN on February 27 2006, 05:09:25 PM
Quote from: "Turbogn86 @ Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:02 pm"
y do u say the ported intake isent for a street car?
IMO, it's just a hefty amount of time and work unless you're racing this car often and looking for every couple of tenths that you can get. I had my engine apart recently and didn't even do it then, while I was in there, 'cause I couldn't really justify it.
Title: what yall think?
Post by: Top Speed on February 27 2006, 05:14:31 PM
Save your money for an alky system....best bang for the buck.
Title: what yall think?
Post by: DCEPTCN on February 27 2006, 05:37:21 PM
Quote from: "Top Speed @ Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:14 pm"
Save your money for an alky system....best bang for the buck.
Although, if your pump ever fails or your "Low Alcohol" light ever burns out it could end up being just that....bang. I quit the alcohol thing and now just run full time race gas....it's expensive, but it's safe and I never drive the damn car anyway.  :mad:
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: Recklessrob on February 27 2006, 08:12:11 PM
Quote from: "Turbogn86 @ Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:02 pm"
if he charges close the 265 for the intake i will get Champion ported stocker. but does anyone do the heads for a decent price, like champion or anything? i just want my stock heads ported... im shopping around, lol. but yes the power plate is a must. y do u say the ported intake isent for a street car?

You don't really appreciate much gain from it until your car is in the low 11's and down.
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: Turbogn86 on February 27 2006, 09:47:53 PM
well my reason for doing it is mostly because i want too for bragging rights
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: Turbogn86 on March 02 2006, 09:08:12 AM
i decided i dont have time for the down time to do the heads and intake so for now im gonna attempt my search for a rear end. anyone know of where i can get a stock 3.42 10 bolts? 8.5
Title: what yall think?
Post by: 87natty on March 02 2006, 12:22:59 PM
Oh damn, froget about junkyards. Try G-Body Parts, first place that comes to mind.
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: Recklessrob on March 02 2006, 01:06:47 PM
What sucks is that most places will bend you over for one of those - condition
unknown...
Title: what yall think?
Post by: 87natty on March 02 2006, 01:34:14 PM
Get a new posi unit and if you wan tto go all out, get some Moser axles, though the stock rear is pretty beefy.
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: Recklessrob on March 02 2006, 01:53:03 PM
IA Performance makes a nice rear girdle/cover for them too!
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: Turbogn86 on March 02 2006, 04:06:58 PM
that stuff would be nice but i am stuck with a 7.5 rear with 2.73 gears... i need the whole rear end.
Title: what yall think?
Post by: 87natty on March 02 2006, 04:25:26 PM
Just re-gear it and get some good axles. If you get a used axle, you'll rebuild it anyways. The 7.5 in my El Camino has survived through 17 years of neglect and 5 of pure abuse.
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: Turbogn86 on March 02 2006, 09:22:54 PM
but what kina power were u pushing to it?
Title: what yall think?
Post by: 87natty on March 02 2006, 11:13:43 PM
Never dynoed or raced legally. :)

It was a 383 with an Edelbrock Torker and a Holley at first and then it was a GMPP manifold with a Q-Jet on top. All the standard SBC things were there, headers, rockers, etc, etc... The tranny was an Art Carr TH400 that kicked like a mule. It was daily driven too.
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: Turbogn86 on March 03 2006, 12:16:32 AM
nice
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: Recklessrob on March 03 2006, 12:55:28 AM
A well built 7.5 will take more abuse than most people
will give them credit for. Here are a few examples:
A guy I know had a mid '80s Firebird with a 468 BBC
that would pull wheelies on 7.5 that he also built. A friend
of mine has a 7.5 in his El Camino with a built 454 BBC that
hes driven for 2 years. Another friend has an '84 Camaro
that has run a best of 11.80 with a 355 SBC. It now has a
383 SBC that we built at the machine shop where I work
part time that pushes an estimated 700 hp on N2O. And,
it still has the 7.5 in it !

You may be able to find a 3.42 limited slip 7.5 axle from a Monte SS
or Olds 442.  FYI TA makes a girdle for those also. I'd also
recommend the "C" clip elimators. You don't really know the value
of them until you've lost an axle.
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: 87natty on March 03 2006, 03:51:17 AM
442 axle is a 3:73 I believe. Further proof is what I see on lifted trucks these days, new Chevy's with 33 inch tires and a 10 bolt rear end, looks like a 7.5" too. The onlt thing that will break it is a lack of common sense as far as maintenance and fucking around go. C-clip eliminators are good too!
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: Turbogn86 on March 03 2006, 09:10:58 AM
how much is all the parts to build it along with a gear set? i have an option of buying a used one from somone on turbobuicks. anyone know Trbuick on turbobuicks.co m? he is located in michigan, said the he only wants 550 plus shipping. i asked him for some info on what it came out of and the milage. any clues what to look for?
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: Recklessrob on March 04 2006, 12:22:57 AM
I never heard of him. When I was building my Grand Prix.
I priced some axles for it. At the time they wanted $700 for
a 3.42 limited slip axle condition unknown no warranty! I don't
know how they can honestly ask that much for something that they
don't know anything about nor stand behind. I ended up buying
an Auburn limited slip diff, a set of Richmond gears, the installation
kit, the seals, axle bearings, a couple of crush collars, fluids, and a
pinion depth setting tool. All for $680 ! So I ended up with a
brand new rear end, that I know will hold up, and I've set up
a few since then that covered the cost of the tools required.
So it didn't cost me all that much.
Title: what yall think?
Post by: 87natty on March 04 2006, 12:47:33 AM
Yeah, fuck the TBs axle, you'll spend more on shipping than the actual part, and it's still used, you know.
Title: Re: what yall think?
Post by: Recklessrob on March 04 2006, 01:03:00 AM
Yeah if you're going to buy a used axle,
buy it local to you so you can at least save the shipping.
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