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Tech Area => General Buick Tech => Topic started by: Steve Wood on November 29 2012, 03:02:22 PM
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While looking at various battery options, I discovered that the Sears Platinum series is the same as the Odyssey battery which is generally regarded as one of the better AGM batteries. It's not cheap at $200 but Sears sometimes puts them on sale for 25% off which is a bit better. The warranty is very attractive at four years full replacement and then proration out to 100 months.
Johnson Controls which is one of the larger battery manufacturers bought Optima a number of years ago. The Optima reputation has really tanked over the past few years and the warranty is for only three years now. Optima production was moved to Mexico in 2008 which is about the time they changed the warranty. I would not be surprised to see a correlation between the the two.
I believe Johnson has started making the rest of the Die Hard line, but, not the Platinum series which is an EnerSys.
East Penn or Deka seems to make well regarded batteries as well.
There are some maps out there that show average battery life versus temperature and I definitely live in the wrong part of the country as battery life is projected to be about half what it is up north. Some batteries are made with less, but heavier, plates for longer hot weather life.
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I like Autozone Gold batteries. I change my batteries in the daily drivers every 4 years. regardless of condition. WalMart has good batteries too, and good pricing.
I like Interstate - too pricey for me though.
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think Autozone's are made by Johnson Controls. I have one that is four years old at the moment. Walmart changes suppliers frequently and the best thing about them is their willingness to honor the warranty. I know several that buy them for that reason. Interstates are made by Johnson Controls as well.
JC is the largest battery manufacturer.
The good Autozone battery has a good warranty as well...think it extends to 96 months with three or four year full. Hard to beat for not much more than $100
When the Diehards were so bad, I believe Exide was making them...now the regular ones are JC again....
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Surprisingly, I rescued the old, dry battery that was in the GN when I bought it. From what I can tell, the car hasn't run for ~4 years.
It's date code is 2007. I put a trickle charger on it, it came back.
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I just replaced the delco in the sunfire, I believe it was the original (2004). :O
Never found the GN to be hard on batteries. Costco (Johnson?) are cost effective.
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far as I know, AC Delco is purely a brand name these days. Aftermarket Delco parts are often pretty shoddy when compared to oem parts. I think Johnson makes some of the Delcos but I did not go look up the list. Costco is also Johnson at the moment, I believe
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I buy Autozone Gold for all of my cars for the last 14 years and recommend them.
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I've been using Interstate for sev years now and they are pretty good at honoring their warranty. I went to buy some more paint at Sears at Penn Center last week only to learn all Sears stores quit selling paint about three months ago. Also, this Sears is going belly up Jan. 1st and a Walmart will be born. And, from the buzz, quite a few Sears and K-Marts are taking the bullet. So, good luck on finding a Sears battery in the near future :(
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My truck has dual optimas and one went bad after only 3 years. Seems like the Costco or Sams Club batteries hold up pretty well.
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Another vote for the Autozone Duralast Gold. I am on my second battery in my GN in 25 years! The Duralast was put in some time in the mid 90's after the Delco finally died. It even survived 5 years in storage.
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3 years for a daily driver doesn't sound good at all.
My truck has dual optimas and one went bad after only 3 years. Seems like the Costco or Sams Club batteries hold up pretty well.
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I wonder what the amp draw on a stock gn is when the key is off?
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Any links to battery information and comparisons.
I was in a hurry and had to buy a battery a few months back and ended up with one from advance. I have always had good luck with batteries, no issues, this one I forgot about and left it outside and it froze so it was my fault. Anyways maybe I am just used to the battries from up north but the replacement that I purchased felt like it weighed half as much as the old one. it also cost more 2x as much.
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There are only a couple of major manufacturers of batteries. Johnson Controls seem to be better considered, but, they make most of them in Mexico these days...so looking at the warranties may as good a means as any when buying.
Optimas are twice the price of others, and, altho made by Johnson, seem to have a bad rep on the net in the past few years.
The Duralast Golds from Autozone carry a 8 year warranty with a four year full replacement for a bit over $100. Several people here have had good luck with them. I have one that is four years old in one of my cars.
In the AGM style, rather than Optima, the DieHard Platinum from Sears is normally in the $200 range but it is made by EnerSys and is considered to be identical to the Odyssey which is made in the same factory in Missouri. It has a slightly longer guarantee than the Duralast Gold.
The AGM should really be charged with a higher tech charger for best performance but many don't. AGM have no liquid in them and may have a few minor associated benefits, but, it would be hard to look anyone in the eye and say this is way better than a conventional battery beyond that feature.
There are a jillion battery articles online, but, I have not found anything earth shattering about any of them other than what I have just now restated.
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I wonder what the amp draw on a stock gn is when the key is off?
A few milliamps...I have had varying luck measuring it and it would vary depending if the car had an alarm and what kinda radio memory. It is not nearly as bad as a modern Vette, or such.
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as of late i really like deka batteries.
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I think I mentioned above that Deka is an US made battery that seems to have a very good reputation
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lol defintally made in the us.. for the life of me i cant remember the parent company but they have the whole town working for them. i delivered a lot of lead there. i have 2 of their batteries in the dually and it cranks better then when it was new with the GM batteries. i plan on putting one in the gn.. all though.. for as much as it eats batteries up i just get the cheapest one.
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Penn East
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thats it. the place is massive. if i remember right is in lyon station.