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General => IHADAV8 Playground => Topic started by: Steve Wood on September 15 2011, 08:14:31 PM
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It is always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. And you can take that to the bank..........
Words of Wisdom.
If you own a gun, you will appreciate this. If not, you should get one and learn how to use it.
Shooting Advice:
Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not to protect you.
Never let someone or thing that threatens you get inside arm's length and never say "I've got a gun". If you feel you need to use deadly force for heaven's sake let the first sound they hear be the safety clicking off, and they shouldn't have time to hear anything after that if you are doing your job.
'The average response time of a 911 call is over 23 minutes the response time of a ...44 magnum is 1400 feet per second.'
Clint Smith, Director of Thunder Ranch, is a drill instructor (Thunder Ranch is a firearms training facility in Arizona ). Here are a few of his observations on tactics, firearms, self-defense and life as we know it in the civilized world.
"The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win - and cheat if necessary."
"Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way."
"Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets. You may get killed with your own gun, but he'll have to beat you to death with it, cause it's going to be empty."
"If you're not shooting', you should be loading'. If you're not loading', you should be moving', if you're not moving', someone's going to cut your head off and put it on a stick."
"When you reload in low light encounters, don't put your flashlight in your back pocket.. If you light yourself up, you'll look like an angel or the tooth fairy... and you're going to be one of 'em pretty soon."
"Do something. It may be wrong, but do something."
"Shoot what's available, as long as it's available, until something else becomes available."
[/size]"If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. That's ridiculous. If you have a gun, what in the hell do you have to be paranoid for?"
"Don't shoot fast, unless you also shoot well."
"You can say 'stop' or 'alto' or use any other word you think will work, but I've found that a large bore muzzle pointed at someone's head is pretty much the universal language."
"You have the rest of your life to solve your problems. How long you live depends on how well you do it."
"You cannot save the planet, but you may be able to save yourself and your family."
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funny you posted this....My Parents have retired to PA and now my Dad has guns both pictures are of my Mother with a Springfield 9MM XD Semi Auto and with a Ruger Semi Auto .22
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Good!
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quote from my dad "She did very well. She was shooting at a paper target about 50ft away. Easy to hit with the rifle but not so easy with the handgun. Valerie did very well getting on the target with the handgun and some shots close to the bull. The rifle was easy since the target was close. She was on the bull all the time."
I told my Dad he needs to be more than 50 feet away and moving
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gotta learn to stand and hit before you move....:)
I suspect the average hand gun fight will be less than 30 ft, but, I have not looked for any stats
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I said my dad needs to be more than 50 feet away and moving just in case my mom gets pissed off :add_wegbrech:
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LOL...now that is good advice!
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anyone have any comments on the Taurus 410 public defender?
thinking real serious about picking up one of those. I like the idea of mixing up the ammo.
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get a Bond Arms-then all you have to do is swap barrels if you don't like .410/.45LC
http://bondarms.com/ (http://bondarms.com/) go down the page and look at the models...then look at all the calibers you can get barrels for...this are great guns
the Judge is over priced and over sized for the purpose
Here is a testimonial that says it all http://bondarms.com/testimonials/theres-nothing-simply-nothing-else-that-even-comes-close-to-the-bond-arms (http://bondarms.com/testimonials/theres-nothing-simply-nothing-else-that-even-comes-close-to-the-bond-arms)
These guns are not tiny derringers and they are extremely well built, but, they kick the Judge's ass
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Those are pretty neat, but in a carjacking or getting robbed on the street situation when I'm scared stiff and the adrenaline is pumping... wouldn't it be better to have more than just 2 rounds? I like the idea of a 410 public defender or s&w 38 that doesn't have a hammer to get caught in your pocket, and is a revolver (less chance of jamming (correct?)
I was thinking 410 cause itd be nice to have a couple rounds of shot in the mix. I guess I need to go look at one and hold it and see if its really that big of a gun.
I've been planning on a 38 for awhile, may just stick with getting one of those, not sure. I'm not a big gun guy or anything, obviously, lol! Just own a couple, and like to shoot a couple times a year.
but now that I have my carry and conceal, I want something when I'm out on the motorcycle, or down in the bad parts of the city
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You will not be carrying a Judge concealed...no t unless you are a giant
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the hammerless .38's are nice....not much thought required with a double action revolver. Remember that car jackings will occur very up close and personal...kin da hard to miss...hardest part will be having the gun ready to use...and using it. The most important thing is practice, practice, practice, and more practice. I would guess most are not prepared for a problem and don't respond adequately
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My best advice is to take a class on self defense with a hand gun if you have not, shoot a variety of guns until you find one that you are comfortable with and you feel competent not to kill innocent bystanders with...and then buy one. I have know many that bought a gun because some one suggested it was what they needed, or they read a magazine review touting its wonders...and then they could not hit anything with it.
Practice might teach you the reflexes needed to hit something with the gun and to remember to take the safety off before trying to squeeze the trigger...mayb e. Damn right inconvenient to have a 9mm with 17 rounds in it and forget to take it off safety...
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a self defense hand gun class would definetly be beneficial for me. I will look into that.
I'm no stranger to tense situations, but I've never been in a fire fight, or pulled a gun to defend myself.
I was carrying a walthers 380ppks. I think I probably fired around 400 rounds through it, but it did jam a couple times. thats the biggest reason for wanting to go with a revolver.
I've held a judge before, but haven't seen the public defender. the public defender is supposed to be smaller/concealable.
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It is smaller, maybe concealable on a fat lady. Usually, the small semis like the ppk get better as they break in...but, nothing beats a revolver.
I think the course would be well worth it.
Ask Zap, he is a lot more up to date on guns in general than I am :)
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The Springfield XD's and XDM's seem to have a reputation for reliability. I've never fired one, but going by what I've read, they're worthy of looking in to. I figure any one of the "big three" semi-auto calibers (.40 S&W, .45 acp, 9mm) will do the job when properly equipped with a premium hollow point ammo (gold dots, Ranger Sxt, etc.). I really don't know what I would carry if I felt a real need -- probably go with the old and reliable .45
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And, I'm not a fan of manual safeties on a handgun. Though nothing feels better to me than a 1911, I'd opt for a Double action only (DAO) or a DA\SA with a decocker -- but that's a personal preference. If push came to shove, I guess I'd cary a Sig P220 Carry.
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My personal favorite is the Astra A-75. Mines in 45 but you can find them in 40 cal. They are hard to find and don't have a safety so to speak. It has a de-coking lever which puts it at half cock and ready to go. DA design so you can fire with hamer in safety or fully cocked.
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Have not shot the xd or xdm, but they feel good in the hand...sure get good reports from buyers.
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I'm sure there is a bad review somewhere, but I have yet to find one on the XD or XDM, and on the internet that's really saying something.
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one thing that was nice with the Springfield XD was the mag/grip extension..I liked the short grip as my pinky finger seemed to add support on the underside of the grip.. with the extension it felt awkward as pinky had to wrap around
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yes, these small guns really benefit from such an extension. Gives the hand some leverage in keeping the gun on target