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General => IHADAV8 Playground => Topic started by: nocooler on June 13 2011, 02:13:24 PM
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I drove a Ford 2011 Crewcab 4x4 with the ecoboost and was surprised. I drove a 2011 GMC Sierra Crewcab 4x4 w/5.3 afterwards and was sorely disappointed.
The torque curve on the ecoboost is down right nasty - 420ft/lbs from like 1500rpm to 5000rpm, it's stupid. No need to rev it like you do with the 5.3 - turn off the traction control, build some boost and have some fun. It sounds extremely pissed off @ WOT.
I hate to say it but I think there will be a Ford in my fleet very soon. I just can't deal with GM's AFM (active fuel management) - cruise around town I could feel it kick in and out of 4 cylinder mode, it was down right annoying. This is hard for me - as I love LSx's - but the ecoboost is damn sexy.
Price wise it's around $3000 more for the Ford, but I'll see what they can do - to make it comparable.
If you get a chance drive one.
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I'm hearing more and more good things about that platform.
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Yeah, that is the one I would like
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the only thing that i read is that the gasmilage isnt what they say. people love the power though.
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the only thing that i read is that the gasmilage isnt what they say. people love the power though.
Couldn't be any worse than a standard V8.
"Such engines are cheaper to build than diesels -- less than $1000 more costly than a conventional V-8 in comparison to the $4000 or $5000 price tag of a diesel engine, according to Ford. That thousand bucks buys you more power, expected to top the targets of 340 horsepower and 340 pound-feet of torque from the 3.5-liter turbo V-6, compared with the 320 and 390 for today's 5.4-liter Triton V-8.
2009 Ford F 150 XLT Side View
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It will also return 15-20 percent better mileage, Ford engineers predict. That extrapolates to 16 mpg city/23 highway for the EcoBoost engine, compared with 13 and 18 for the V-8 today.
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2008/112_0812_2011_ford_f_150_ecoboost_engine/index.html
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if i'm not mistaken the milage was the same as a standard v8. my question is, what grade gas does it use? 87 all the time?
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and for the record, i hate and i do hate to admit that i really like what ford is doing with the ecoboost. wish gm would do something like that. maybe a small diesel?
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Rob - it runs on 87, and gets 2mpg better than the V8. It gets the same MPG as 5.3 with AFM - but has a better torque curve. It's flat from 1500ish to 5k @ 420 ft/lbs - non of the v8's can compete.
Real world mileage depends how hard you are on it. The mpg display showed 20ish average for me on the highway but went to nothing as soon as I started playing.
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jeremy 87 all the time? towing or not?
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and for the record, i hate and i do hate to admit that i really like what ford is doing with the ecoboost. wish gm would do something like that. maybe a small diesel?
I messed that up originally, I do not follow the diesel line much.
GM did; they made a 2.9-liter turbo V6 250 hp, 406 lb.-ft. a couple years back . . .
Oh and it would install traverse or inline. Serious power too!
AJ___
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Rob - yes doesn't matter, it's tuned for 87. Any modifications and they'll pull the warranty - but from the testing they've done on it, they'll stand behind it stock
Speculation says the Gen V in the next vette will be small displacement, direct injected, afm, and boosted - I'm sure that'll trickle down threw the line eventually.
Edit: it should be mentioned that it's not a flex fuel vehicle either - probably has to do with the current size limitations of the direct injection injectors.
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thats really cool jeremy! like i said i like what they're doing but.. still not enough to look at it. i hate the feel of how ford drives and feels on the interior
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Really - I preferred how the Ford drove - it parked easier and drove nicer. The interior - the GMC was nicer imo, but not by much - both were very comfortable.
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At the end of the day you'll still need V8 fuel consumption to make V8 power. But, as turbo V6 owners we have already come to terms with this.
Wait to see that GM does with it's direct injected 3.6L; my brother works on stuff that he's not allowed to talk about. ;) ;)
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At the end of the day you'll still need V8 fuel consumption to make V8 power. But, as turbo V6 owners we have already come to terms with this.
Wait to see that GM does with it's direct injected 3.6L; my brother works on stuff that he's not allowed to talk about. ;) ;)
and for the record, i hate and i do hate to admit that i really like what ford is doing with the ecoboost. wish gm would do something like that. maybe a small diesel?
I messed that up originally, I do not follow the diesel line much.
GM did; they made a 2.9-liter turbo V6 250 hp, 406 lb.-ft. a couple years back . . .
Oh and it would install traverse or inline. Serious power too!
AJ___
(http://ihadav8.com/phpBB2/files/gm_2.9-liter_turbo_v6_250_hp__406_lbft_142.jpg)
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I love what Ford is doing with the ecoboost engines!! And you can get it in several of their platforms!!!
But the F150 ecoboost is the most impressive if you want major towing in the 150 platform..... 11,300# towing capacity without having to buy a heavy duty truck! Cool!!
But my next purchase WILL be an ecoboosted Ford product of one sort or another.
Want to know just how impressive Ford's ecoboost v6 really is???? Check this out....
http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/experiencef150/
there are 6 videos, check them all out in order!!!
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the only thing i'll disagree with.. why dont they put it against the vortec max?
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the only thing i'll disagree with.. why dont they put it against the vortec max?
You must be refering to video #4. Why compare it to a vortec max. Oh, and what's a vortec max???
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the only thing i'll disagree with.. why dont they put it against the vortec max?
Rob - they have the 6.2 to compete against the Vortec Max.
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I like it!!!
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dave the vortec max is pretty much the 1500 for all out pulling.
jeremy if i'm not mistaken (and i can be) wont the ecoboost out pull the big ford v8?
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dave the vortec max is pretty much the 1500 for all out pulling.
jeremy if i'm not mistaken (and i can be) wont the ecoboost out pull the big ford v8?
It might - but the 6.2 is the biggest offered in the F150, it has the highest hp and torque.
Ford doesn't offer any direct comparisons on their own line up.
I've decided to hold off on a new truck for a year - other things take priority right now. I'll revisit the ecoboost and gm at that time.
Definitely drive an ecoboost if you get a chance - it's pretty impressive.
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I got an Ecoboost F150 about 2 months ago.It hauls ass for a big truck.I haven't got it to the track yet but I'd like to at least once this summer.There's a few guys on the forums that have run 14.5-14.6 (stock) boost launching in 4x4.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/mrbuick/Picture160Medium.jpg)