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Title: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 07 2011, 08:40:17 PM
Per Steve Wood's advice I am starting my very own thread about my very odd Buick Turbo T (aka. The White Elephant). Here's a build thread on another site: http://www.xceedspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183420 ; you may have to join to see the attachments.

Current mods include (but, are not limited to) the following very financially draining list of parts:

Stock LC2, MAFT Pro (in SD) w/Caspers PnP Harness, Extender Pro, LC-1, PL, EGT Amp, Hi-Boost Solenoid, Oil & Fuel Pressure Transducers, PowerPlate, T63E, Low-Z 83pph Injs, FMIC w/2.5" Pipes, 4" "MAF" Pipe, 3" DP & 4" Single Exhaust, LT1 Starter, Dual Pumps, ProPain/Alky/N2O Injection, TH400 w/3300 Stall, Transbrake & Trans-cooler w/Fan, 3" Chrome-moly DS, Metco Loop, 8.5" w/Welded Axle Tubes, Long Studs & 3.08s, 12" 1LE & LS1 Disc Brakes F/R, Tubular/Boxed UCAs/LCAs F&R, 36mm 1LE & 24mm Hellwig Sways, 6pt Rollbar, Chassis Braces, Bilstein/KYB F/R, 800lb/in & 200lb/in Springs F/R, Simmons FR17 17x9.5 w/275/40s & 17x11 w/315/35 NT05Rs & an HKS SSQV BOV... blah... blah... blah.

My current projects include adding alky injection (almost complete) and nitrous injection (Bob Bailey is working on a MAFT Pro trigger for me for this).

Lastly, here is an awesome HD video of the car on an auto-x course with the ECM stuck in "Valet Mode"... It was like having half of 150hp. :mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSEQ5UuFIOo
Title: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Steve Wood on June 07 2011, 09:02:58 PM
It is a beautiful car!
Title: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Top Speed on June 07 2011, 09:15:05 PM
I always liked that car!
Title: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on June 07 2011, 09:45:31 PM
Motor pics please.Lots of them. :)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Charlief1 on June 07 2011, 11:06:57 PM
LOL You stole the pic of my rear as I was trying to fit up the 2 sway bars. :D  Like the car and can't wait to see more. :supz:
Title: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 08 2011, 08:04:59 AM
Thanks, gents!

I'll grab some fresh underhood shots when I get home. I just repainted the upper rad support so it is far less embarassing to pop the hood in public now.

And, yes Charlie I referenced your photo as it spelled out the advantages of moving to the chassis/axle mount swaybar.
Title: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Charlief1 on June 09 2011, 12:58:45 AM
Quote from: "motorheadmike @ Wed 08 Jun, 2011 06:04"
And, yes Charlie I referenced your photo as it spelled out the advantages of moving to the chassis/axle mount swaybar.


Glad I could help Mike but some of the mods are exclusive so I won't be showing all of them. :D
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: TSM Girl on June 09 2011, 07:07:04 AM
Very nice looking, I like it!
Title: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 12 2011, 09:36:07 PM
Pardon the lack of updates... I will say this: don't get married because it eats up all your time. 6 days until she's all mine. ;)

Expect to see the Buick in some of the wedding photos. :D
Title: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on June 12 2011, 10:36:55 PM
Crazy - I am getting married Wednesday. :P
Title: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 20 2011, 08:51:18 PM
We'll I am married now...

I drove the Buick over 400 miles round trip to get it in a handful of photos; not a bad way to spend $120 on gas and 6 painful hours in an uncomfortable death trap. ;)

Once the pics start rolling in from either the photographer or our friends/family I'll be sure to share them.
Title: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on June 20 2011, 09:40:45 PM
PLease do! I will have my pics up soon. Photobucket probaly
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on July 02 2011, 08:28:48 PM
Underhood and wedding pics this ain't; but it is still something to behold:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StFzHfz_JBg

I literally pulled the Buick out of the garage after sitting for two weeks this morning. Having only checking the tire pressure, oil and tranny fluid levels before stomping the living crap out of this thing. :D
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: daveismissing on July 06 2011, 07:34:35 PM
Reading this:

http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/introduce-yourself-community/97876-handling-vs-monte-carlo-ss.html

and thinking - hey, here's a guy that can say what the Monte can do on the same course?


Everybodyloves acanadiangirl's nose?
:)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on July 07 2011, 07:56:08 AM
Quote from: "daveismissing @ Wed Jul 06, 2011 18:34"
Reading this:

http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/introduce-yourself-community/97876-handling-vs-monte-carlo-ss.html

and thinking - hey, here's a guy that can say what the Monte can do on the same course?


My Monte Carlo is a POS from the perspective of handling. Stock for stock the 1980's Turbo Regal is no better or worse than a 1980's Monte Carlo. They both handled like dump trucks off the showroom floor; and even with extensive modifications there is no way on God's green Earth are they comparable to a Corvette built in the last 30 years. Also, simply buying suspension crap and slapping it on a G-body isn't going to make it an instant performer... ultimately that will be dictated by the driver who must being intimate with the platform.

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Everybodyloves acanadiangirl's nose?
:)


Yeah, that's the wife's cute little nose. Natasha is getting better with her camera work.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on July 29 2011, 09:35:48 AM
Finally got the pictures back from the wedding... pardon my squintiness but the sun was setting in my eyes.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on July 29 2011, 09:47:38 AM
Is she OK with being 2nd fiddle to an 80's muscle car? :P
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on July 29 2011, 09:54:24 AM
In the same way I'll be "OK" being second fiddle to our children? LOL
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on July 29 2011, 11:22:15 AM
Sure.  :add_wegbrech:
 
 Great pics. Hot wife, cool car!
 
 Not sure about that kilt though.  :hmm
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: $1987 GN$ on July 29 2011, 01:06:26 PM
Sure.  :add_wegbrech:
 
 Great pics. Hot wife, cool car!
 
 Not sure about that kilt though.  :hmm

Was wondering about that skirt myself . . .
Either way sweet looking girls.

AJ___
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on July 29 2011, 02:44:17 PM
I guess that little AC vent under the steering wheel would work wonders when wearing a kilt. :D
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 01 2011, 09:55:08 PM
Thanks guys... and I love wearing a kilt.

Oh here's an under hood shot.  You'll have to excuse all the green tape and make-shift diapers... auto-x is messy business.


Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: richie6 on August 02 2011, 01:11:16 AM
Congratulation s, Mike.  :)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 02 2011, 02:19:37 PM
great pics!  Congratulation s again!!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 03 2011, 06:20:15 PM
Thanks fellas!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 07 2011, 06:42:30 PM
I realized that I hadn't driven my Buick in over a month, not since the ECM fried... and its not that I couldn't drive it; I just didn't.

I don't think I like putting around town in it anymore.

But, I did race the snot out of it today... and it is scheduled for another thrashing next weekend too. ;)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: $1987 GN$ on August 07 2011, 06:49:41 PM
I realized that I hadn't driven my Buick in over a month, not since the ECM fried... and its not that I couldn't drive it; I just didn't.

I don't think I like putting around town in it anymore.

But, I did race the snot out of it today... and it is scheduled for another thrashing next weekend too. ;)

At least if you wreck all is good, if someone smacks you different story understood.
What happened to fry the ECM?

AJ___
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 07 2011, 07:32:38 PM
What actually caused the ECM to fry is still up in the air. I need to wait to see what Bob Bailey has to say about it all. He's not back in the shop until this week. It was a really odd moment, but I am glad that I had a spare modified ECM in the trunk when it happened.  :add_wegbrech:
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 14 2011, 06:07:42 PM
Another day at the track (in HD):

autoxbuick13aug11.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyRkPZMr1c4#ws)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on August 14 2011, 06:23:44 PM
Wow!

Did your brother in law have to change his shorts?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 14 2011, 06:39:48 PM
Wow!

Did your brother in law have to change his shorts?

Not in my car...

But, he did after a ride in a buddy's Lotus Elise.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 03 2011, 05:56:49 PM
I did this to my ECM: http://ihadav8.com/forum/index.php?topic=2712.0 (http://ihadav8.com/forum/index.php?topic=2712.0)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 09 2011, 03:18:39 PM
And then there was this...
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 09 2011, 03:20:17 PM
And this... yes, my hood popped open (again).
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on September 09 2011, 04:15:24 PM
Nice. I love seeing that thing tear around the track
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 12 2011, 05:51:32 PM
My Buick has some big black friends...

(http://whitetrashdesign.ca/images/toybox.jpg)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: daveismissing on September 12 2011, 07:08:19 PM
So where's the porch? (sic)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 12 2011, 07:12:05 PM
If you mean Porsche... I never got it; kinda wish I'd pushed that one harder.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on September 12 2011, 07:21:52 PM
Nice looking Monte.  You need a bigger garage.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 12 2011, 08:13:45 PM
Thanks... the garage is already 28x40, IIRC.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 21 2011, 10:33:12 PM
Action from this past weekend...

(http://whitetrashdesign.ca/images/buick/17%20Sep%2011/1.jpg)

(http://whitetrashdesign.ca/images/buick/17%20Sep%2011/2.jpg)

(http://whitetrashdesign.ca/images/buick/17%20Sep%2011/3.jpg)

(http://whitetrashdesign.ca/images/buick/17%20Sep%2011/4.jpg)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 06 2012, 11:58:24 PM
Pulled the double pumper setup out of my car tonight.

The pumps look to be a mystery:
AOU182
27794-2B (most likely the build date/shift/batch)
PAT NO 4500270 (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4500270.PN.&OS=PN/4500270&RS=PN/4500270 (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4500270.PN.&OS=PN/4500270&RS=PN/4500270))

Not sure if I should keep these or replace them?

There are a few parts inside that need replacement/modification.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Top Speed on April 07 2012, 10:41:11 AM
My Buick has some big black friends...

(http://whitetrashdesign.ca/images/toybox.jpg)


That is a nice picture!   :atbeer:
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: gbsean on April 07 2012, 03:05:53 PM
I like the kilt...i wanted to wear one at my wedding but wife said no...great videos also...
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 08 2012, 01:19:32 PM
Thanks, gents...

Got a little work done with installing the new Superior axles to replace "old warpy" and pulling the gas tank for some preventative maintenance... and what do I find?

The return line fitting (NPT to AN) on the tank is JB Welded in place! I fucking hate the hack shit people do in light of safety. I am left with very few options but to run a bulkhead fitting in place of the old POS. At least it shouldn't spin in place like the epoxied POS.
 
 Other than that there are just a few wear parts that need replacement and this should all go back together nicely. Or go horribly, horribly wrong.
 
 I painted the top half of tank to seal it from moisture and the axles just for giggles.

Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: daveismissing on April 08 2012, 02:30:03 PM
So epoxy is good for oil pans, not for gas tanks?
:)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 08 2012, 02:58:59 PM
So epoxy is good for oil pans, not for gas tanks?
 :)

The oil drain fittings were welded to the oil pan, smart ass.  :icon_fU: ;)  :rofl:
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 08 2012, 09:37:15 PM
Anyone ever use one of these before to vent a gas tank? I've had pressure/boil over issues for years with a full tank and direct sunlight; and just so happen to have one from my old Camaro. Evidently it is a two way fresh air/pressure vent valve.

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/tech-general-engine/567997-fuel-tank-pressure.html (http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/tech-general-engine/567997-fuel-tank-pressure.html)

I've opened up the old return line to act as a secondary vent and enlarged the factory purge line to improve the total volume/flow out of the tank. I hope this solves the issues I have been having, or at least keeps the car from dumping gas on the ground.

I am doing some other minor mods to my double-pumper hanger... I'll post pics tomorrow.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: $1987 GN$ on April 08 2012, 10:38:56 PM
Not back there but yes.

AJ___
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 09 2012, 09:53:40 PM
Took a few hours tonight to monkey around with some things.

The first thing I did was braze together a section of 1/4", 5/16" and 3/8" steel line; I've since painted it to prevent rust. This gives me a way of connecting the stock vent line, return line (now vented) to the F-body tank vent. I'll be placing the vent up by the filler neck when it comes time to reinstall the gas tank.

I pulled the downpipe tonight after MUCH struggling just to find the wastegate puck bent, as in not even close to sealing. I've managed to bang it back into sorts. If I find that the puck has been out of sorts for the last 10 years and contributing to my slow-spool issue I am going to have a litter of kittens.

Lastly you can see the mods to the hanger to (hopefully) aid in venting.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 11 2012, 10:59:17 AM
Just ordered up some submersible 3/8" rubber fuel line from Gates  (P/N 27097) - $35 for a foot! Help me, Jebus!

http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=5091&location_id=541 (http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=5091&location_id=541)

Beats having a blow-out; and it is better than the swollen line I found in the tank when I pulled the hanger - yikes!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: daveismissing on April 11 2012, 11:25:24 AM
SAE 30R10, not cheap
~$20 from Jegs?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on April 11 2012, 11:35:59 AM
Meh.. $35.00 for peace of mind. Small price to pay.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 12 2012, 04:46:23 PM
Meh.. $35.00 for peace of mind. Small price to pay.

Got it for $26 out the door... it helps to go into a store in uniform. ;)
 
For the sake of comparison I paid $2.50/ft for regular FI rubber line -  :icon_eyes:
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 29 2012, 11:56:31 AM
The gas tank is back in with the new vent run; both pumps turn on so this is good news. I still have to pressure test the system to ensure that my work is good. I now know this was a good idea because the old rubber lines were badly dry rotted and cracked when I pulled them out.

Suspension is now greased, and differential is refilled with GM 80w-90 (plus a some Irving HDH gear oil I had laying around: http://www.coastalbp.com/uploads/file/pdfs/Irving/Infotech_en/5.%20Manual%20Transmission-%20Industrial%20Gear%20Oils%20%285%29/HDH%2024may2010.pdf (http://www.coastalbp.com/uploads/file/pdfs/Irving/Infotech_en/5.%20Manual%20Transmission-%20Industrial%20Gear%20Oils%20%285%29/HDH%2024may2010.pdf)) and a bottle of GM limited slip juice.

I also spent countless hours yesterday (and fingerprints) planing the header, turbine housing inlet and outlet flanges with a sharpening stone to true them up. They still aren't perfect so I may end up running this gasket (Vibrant P/N 1461): http://vibrantperformance.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1022_1068_1127&products_id=134 (http://vibrantperformance.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1022_1068_1127&products_id=134) It seems to line up perfectly.

After breaking my impact gun - yay for Chinese tools, and subsequently fixing it with parts from an old IR gun that it was a knock off of, I got both the front wheels off to find flat spots on both tires. Which explains the horrible vibration the car developed last August... and here I just thought it was the warped axle. LOL.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Steve Wood on April 29 2012, 12:25:30 PM
I remember flat spots-or I think that is one of my memories
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 29 2012, 02:45:33 PM
I remember flat spots-or I think that is one of my memories

I can pin point them here:

autoxbuick13aug11.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyRkPZMr1c4#ws)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 29 2012, 09:05:27 PM
Well this sucks a little. The main fuel pump won't prime now, it did yesterday... however if you put power directly to the pump it runs. Fuse? Relay? Oprah? I am recharging the battery to ensure it isn't the culprit, even if I can switch on pump #2 and it runs fine.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 29 2012, 09:23:23 PM
Well this sucks a little. The main fuel pump won't prime now, it did yesterday... however if you put power directly to the pump it runs. Fuse? Relay? Oprah? I am recharging the battery to ensure it isn't the culprit, even if I can switch on pump #2 and it runs fine.

Or just don't hit your fuel pump kill switch - which you forgot you installed. Yeah I need fewer cars.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 29 2012, 10:21:16 PM
Just ordered up a pair of Nitto NT05 255/40/17s for the front... $390 shipped to the door with the tariffs pre-paid, which means no surprises - thanks DiscountTireDi rect.com!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: daveismissing on April 29 2012, 10:35:20 PM
Whats the point of a kill switch that only switches one pump?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 30 2012, 07:47:32 AM
Whats the point of a kill switch that only switches one pump?

None.
 
However, I wired in the kill switch for the primary pump long before I ran a second switch to activate the #2 pump in order to drain the tank. I stopped using the kill switch when I got an anti-theft feature in one of Bob's chips... which is why I forgot that it was even there.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 30 2012, 09:26:29 AM
So I called Discount Tire this morning to ammend my order to 275/40/17s as I realized the 255s would be too short. Turns out that they had to cancel my order due to a exclusive Canadian distribution policy for Nitto with a company called Kal Tire.

So I call the local Kal Tire and work out a deal that comes close to the online price I had if I have them do the mounting and balancing. Hang up to confirm my figures, call back and now they are humming and ha-ing on the price they gave me.

If this doesn't work out I am just going to order something else from Discount Tire that they can ship to Canada and take the labour charges somewhere else.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: ULYCYC on April 30 2012, 09:29:40 AM
Try http://www.tirerack.com/ (http://www.tirerack.com/)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: daveismissing on April 30 2012, 09:55:16 AM
You moved too far from the border Mikey.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 30 2012, 12:32:00 PM
Is waiting for a callback for over 3hrs is fucking unreasonable or what? So I bought some Falken FK-452s in 275/40R17 for $322 to the door from Discount Tire. Clearly not what I wanted with a 300 tread wear rating (vs. 200 for the Nittos), but I had to get something quick due to the flat spots on my rock hard BFGs and my leaving for PowerTour in under a month.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 30 2012, 12:44:55 PM
Try http://www.tirerack.com/ (http://www.tirerack.com/)

Their shipping charges are horrible, plus I end up getting dinged with UPS' surprise bullshit charges. Discount Tire also ships with UPS but includes an up front fee that is paid to UPS; thus no surprises by the time they arrive at the house.
 
Dave,
 
I can still get across the border in 1.5hrs via Ogdenburg - but, since Natasha has yet to get her passport renewed I don't care to make the trip alone.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 30 2012, 08:08:04 PM
Turns out that the parts store 100" speedo cable (ATP Y816) isn't going to work... should have got the Delco unit (ACDELCO Part # 88959481   
CABLE,SPEEDO EXC GEAR ADAPTER; w/4-SPD AUTO TRANS(MW9); FLEX W/CASING, 100.91 IN/2563.11 MM LONG; CC1066).

NOS4GN.com maybe?

If I am a looking for a little victory here it is that the car started instantly (after taking a minute or so to fill the -10 and -6 AN fuel lines), isn't leaking and is running pretty good (idling anyway).
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on May 01 2012, 12:02:36 PM
http://www.nos4gn.com/servlet/the-234/Buick-Grand-National-GNX/Detail (http://www.nos4gn.com/servlet/the-234/Buick-Grand-National-GNX/Detail)
$29.95

(http://www.nos4gn.com/media/4/a20791a12633fcafcec0f4_m.JPG)

Quote
Brand new ACDelco speedometer cable with shaft for all 1984-1987 Buick Grand National and Turbo Regal w/200-4R (MW9) transmission.

This is the correct 101" long, one piece design that replaces the original two-piece design used during assembly-line production for ease of assembly.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 01 2012, 03:45:18 PM
Yeah, I tried ordering from them this morning... tried to add a washer pump to the order, was told they had to recheck shipping, and once again no call back. Kinda pissed.

Just called the local jobber who is going to have to special order it, assuming it is available, and they are supposed to call me back... LOL!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 01 2012, 04:03:42 PM
$53.62 taxes in... can have it in 2 days out of Montreal; waiting for another shop to find it as they are closer to my house.

However, depending upon how late Natasha gets to my office tonight I may just take her on a date to the parts store - because I am just that kind of guy...
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on May 01 2012, 07:34:11 PM
Odd about the NOS4GN non-callback, they are really aggressive with calls..
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Top Speed on May 01 2012, 08:06:20 PM
Probably Canadian discrimination .
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 01 2012, 09:54:22 PM
Did a little nut and bolt work to the car tonight... like bolting the dash back together.  :rolleyes; Threw some new hardware to hold the airdams on as the pounding from the cones shook them loose last year - nylock nuts for the win! I also nutted the wheels back on and jammed some 1.25" spacers in the front for giggles. It only looks good as the tires will smash the fender lip if I drive over an ant. This could work with some extensive cutting and some GNX flares; or just toss in 3/4" spacers and call it safe. Either way I now know that I can stretch a 275/40 on an 11" wide rim in the front of my car (could have tried the rears on the front too?). Time to start hunting for some wheel barrels.

Pardon the rear ride height the car is waaay low on gas and the axle has been hanging for days.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Shimy87 on May 02 2012, 01:16:52 PM
Is that a fiberglass frontbumper without the trim pieces installed?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 02 2012, 09:25:05 PM
Is that a fiberglass frontbumper without the trim pieces installed?

Yes indeed.

Does anyone know why a gas gauge would read/sweep over to FULL regardless if the sending unit is attached or not?  I have a funny feeling that while I was trying to change the speedo cable I monkeyed something up with the cluster.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 03 2012, 06:14:34 PM
gauge just presses into the cluster as I recall....don't remember if there is a retainer, or not...I know if the contacts are not clean, it will act funny but it's been years since I had to mess with mine
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: daveismissing on May 04 2012, 09:33:35 AM
Is the gauge cct run off battery voltage or is it off a regulated source?
kindledave at tbnats
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 09 2012, 05:09:34 PM
New speedo cable is here... looks different than the stocker, but better than the jobber unit that was rightthefuckou tof'er. Guess I'll throw that in tonight.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 09 2012, 08:44:33 PM
Good News Everyone! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D1cap6yETA#)

Well when I placed the AC Delco cable next to the jobber cable they look identical from the outside, however the Delco has a nylon head for the speedometer and the unit actually works! Oh the joys of a TH400 and cruise control.

In other news I confirmed that the float on the hanger in the tank is the issue. I now have three courses of action:

1. Take it apart and inspect/fix;
2. Fill it with gas, drive down a bumpy road and hope that it loosens the problem; or
3. Just live with it, do a rough calculation for MPG on the highway and be sure to pull over frequently while on the PowerTour.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Shimy87 on May 10 2012, 11:11:26 AM
option 2
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: $1987 GN$ on May 10 2012, 11:14:15 AM
In other news I confirmed that the float on the hanger in the tank is the issue. I now have three courses of action:

1. Take it apart and inspect/fix;
2. Fill it with gas, drive down a bumpy road and hope that it loosens the problem; or
3. Just live with it, do a rough calculation for MPG on the highway and be sure to pull over frequently while on the PowerTour.



Option one, but I like punishment.


AJ___
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 10 2012, 11:31:24 AM
Option One, or you will live to regret it
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Shimy87 on May 10 2012, 01:03:22 PM
life's a gamble, go for option 2  :icon_eyes:
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 10 2012, 01:10:51 PM
Option One, or you will live to regret it

I figure the worst that can happen is that I'll have to drain the full gas tank into the tank of another car here at the house; and then take on option one.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Steve Wood on May 10 2012, 01:44:33 PM
or it slips your mind to refill and you remember while you are in the middle of bum FK Saskatchewan with nothing but wheat as far as you can see
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 10 2012, 02:30:37 PM
or it slips your mind to refill and you remember while you are in the middle of bum FK Saskatchewan with nothing but wheat as far as you can see

I'll just start building a still and begin making my own ethanol....
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 12 2012, 02:26:49 PM
Well COA #2 didn't work. I'll just drive the car around awhile and do some tuning before draining the tank... and implementing COA #1.

I have some minor parts on order like an exhaust clamp, new dust caps, and a washer pump.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 13 2012, 03:37:10 PM
Holy shit this thing is quick... 27psi = tight sphincter.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 13 2012, 10:11:22 PM
Oh! And COA #2 worked! It shook itself loose/free today... is there nothing the Buick "shaker V6" can't do?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on May 13 2012, 11:42:06 PM
Oh! And COA #2 worked! It shook itself loose/free today... is there nothing the Buick "shaker V6" can't do?

 :rock:
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Shimy87 on May 14 2012, 04:51:29 PM
life's a gamble, go for option 2  :icon_eyes:

What did I tell ya....ha ha :rock:
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: $1987 GN$ on May 14 2012, 05:13:56 PM
So what are your plans to drive it not know what is/was wrong?

Just curious.

AJ___
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 14 2012, 05:37:27 PM
So what are your plans to drive it not know what is/was wrong?

Just curious.

AJ___

Something like this...

https://maps.google.ca/maps?saddr=Ottawa,+On&daddr=Detroit,+MI,+United+States+to:Muskegon,+MI,+United+States+to:Champaign,+IL,+United+States+to:Madison,+IL+to:Windsor,+On+to:Ottawa,+ON&hl=en&sll=42.032415,-82.823495&sspn=13.637611,14.80957&geocode=FdoTtQId1_N8-ymvE1FfsgXOTDHtFd0x4VFqig%3BFSPthQIdhtIM-yl1HcsQAcokiDHSxLk1ToZ2Vw%3BFYWzkwIdOPTb-inZnj2pw3wZiDFAJfc0kTV-JA%3BFcQgZAIdSYO9-ikbaZfejdAMiDHPv3W0R3j1MA%3BFbY_TgIdAlCg-inbmW7MYU3fhzHEJhpccI3ABA%3BFcRVhQIdSZ8N-ylriE-1wSo7iDFR3PwnldRstg%3BFdoTtQId1_N8-ymvE1FfsgXOTDHtFd0x4VFqig&oq=otta&mra=ls&t=m&z=6

3,586 km
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: $1987 GN$ on May 14 2012, 06:05:15 PM
Have fun fast approaching.
Have not done that in a while need to do one again.

AJ___
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 15 2012, 11:35:05 AM
Does anyone know why my cruise control is surging?

The manifold pressure/vac reading is steady, the signal to the VSS is smooth, AFR doesn't seem to be hunting around too much, nothing is in the way of the cable, linkage or throttle... and holding the throttle manually at speed presents a smooth drive. Yet, if I engage the cruise control it starts to act up, and surge ever so slightly.

Your thoughts?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: $1987 GN$ on May 15 2012, 01:06:04 PM
(http://)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on May 15 2012, 01:46:04 PM
(http://)

Amazing insight there, AJ.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: daveismissing on May 15 2012, 02:55:26 PM


Amazing insight there, AJ.


 :icon_lol:
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: $1987 GN$ on May 15 2012, 04:35:27 PM


Amazing insight there, AJ.


 :icon_lol:

LOL

Had to run and did not have time to say what I thought, so hit enter and ran.

Have seen this happen with a leaky bladder/servo. Not sure that is you issue as you have steady vacuum.

AJ___
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: daveismissing on May 15 2012, 08:03:32 PM
AJ have you spent any time looking at the module?  I would have thought it was an analog
thingy but it has an xtal on it so guessing there's a processor.

Leaky vac makes sense, keeps trying to correct for it.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: $1987 GN$ on May 15 2012, 09:39:40 PM
AJ have you spent any time looking at the module?  I would have thought it was an analog
thingy but it has an xtal on it so guessing there's a processor.

Leaky vac makes sense, keeps trying to correct for it.

nah was to lazy to bother since I could grab one at t he wreckers for cheap.

I think I may still have a few here. I will have a look and see, might be able to send one your way. ( no promise; I will look tomorrow, I do know there are two in pieces and I think two complete but do not recall the condition of them)

AJ___
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 16 2012, 07:11:27 AM
I'll do some poking around, and I believe I have a spare cruise setup(?) somewhere in the garage.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: $1987 GN$ on May 17 2012, 03:31:01 PM
Did you find one? If not I have one here.

AJ___
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 20 2012, 05:09:56 PM
Still waiting on getting to the cruise control issue... although I did notice some slack in the cable and tightened it up at the diaphragm.

In other news, and I need some opinions here, I just spent the day centering my steering wheel - which has been off to the right since I fixed my alignment last Spring. I had to add almost a half-inch to the tie-rod assembly on the PS side in order to get it straight. Adding and subtracting equal amounts did nothing to improve the situation. That means that the PS is now at 18.5" and the DS is 18.0" - am I bat shit crazy or does something seem off here?

I heard rumours that my car had seen a crash, but nothing confirmed. As well I know that the engine is offset to the PS by about 1/2" from the factory and God only know what the allowable specs for chassis variance were in 1987.

Anyway I am set to 0* toe right now and am going to take it down the road to see if it is a baked set up and if it is going to dog-track.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Top Speed on May 21 2012, 07:25:51 PM


Amazing insight there, AJ.


 :icon_lol:


Have seen this happen with a leaky bladder..

AJ___




Nothing some Depends can't fix.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: gbsean on May 21 2012, 07:31:50 PM
http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/engine/vacdiags/vac_federal.jpg (http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/engine/vacdiags/vac_federal.jpg)

there is a check valve in the hose to the cruise is that in place...
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: $1987 GN$ on May 21 2012, 08:23:21 PM


Amazing insight there, AJ.


 :icon_lol:


Have seen this happen with a leaky bladder..

AJ___




Nothing some Depends can't fix.

Not yet, maybe some day; who knows.  :icon_evil:


AJ___
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 21 2012, 09:15:16 PM
http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/engine/vacdiags/vac_federal.jpg (http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/engine/vacdiags/vac_federal.jpg)

there is a check valve in the hose to the cruise is that in place...

I'll go look during the second intermission.. . GO DEVILS!

EDIT: Yup - still there (at least one of them is - closest to the vacuum distribution block). I poked around real quick and found that one of the lines going into the EGR vacuum regulator was loose... so I fixed that. We'll see if that makes a difference.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 29 2012, 11:20:15 AM
Oh shit I'm mobile now... Natasha made me get a smart phone. Handy tool when your Buick craps out on you.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 10 2012, 11:09:18 AM
I finally sorted out the alignment of the steering wheel yesterday, I set the toe to 1/8" out to see if this aids in fixing the horrible understeer this car has always exhibited; the fresh rubber should help too.

Now I just have to fix the trans pan leak and take it auto-xing next month.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 10 2012, 05:51:45 PM
Gave Natasha an early anniversary present... she'd only been asking for 6 years to drive it. I think she's hooked on boost now. ;)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on June 12 2012, 01:05:16 PM
Sweet.  :cool;

I haven't let my wife drive the Buick yet..
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 14 2012, 10:12:36 PM
Well I got sick and tired of waiting for Bob Bailey to write me the window switch trigger software for the MAFT Pro so I got an MSD unit... time to trigger the nitrous. ;)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 23 2012, 03:07:49 PM
or maybe I should hold off on that nitrous?

When we had the car out for a spin last weekend, during the transition from low into mid-boost the car hesitated and burped a little. This is extremely unusual for this car. As well, when letting off the throttle to coast the engine cycles its speed a little, a kind of low speed oscillation.

Checked the oil - good, coolant - good, plugs - good (tan-ish despite a cold start up & move cycle being the last time it ran). At any rate I am going to clean, regap and stick the 4 year old plugs back in; and take it for a spin to datalog it.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 24 2012, 02:49:50 PM
Hits 18psi and knocks like a mutha.

So I refilled the propane tank to be on the safe side as it is set to come on at 18psi; no change. I'll have to test the system to see if it is actually turning on, or find out if there is a failure somewhere.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on July 05 2012, 03:15:27 PM
I bench tested the system and it is functioning correctly. I even compared it to the other propane setup at the house and it compared in overall functionality.

I am going to look at the programmed timing controls and see if it is getting too much advance for some reason?

Eitherway the car is set to run its first auto-x of the season this weekend (and first of the back to back to back to back races this month) and I'll just turn down the boost to be on the safe side. Nothing quite like racing in the July heat and humidity.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on July 07 2012, 05:16:47 PM
Found out that the AUX timing was set at 28*!!! I am damn lucky to have a functioning engine still. Everything is back down to a much more sensible low to mid-20*s in high gear under full boost. Speaking of full boost this thing hit 32psi this morning... yikes! I dialed that back down to 27ish psi.

The work I did on the downpipe (specifically seating the wastegate puck) has really paid off... so well that the car will spool so quickly it sends me into a spin mid-corner. I'll have to review the logs later to see how quick it is coming in.

Sorry... no action shots yet.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on July 08 2012, 09:08:42 PM
Getting closer...
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on July 24 2012, 10:25:49 AM
Here's an action shot from yesterday... and my break area.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: daveismissing on July 24 2012, 10:26:43 AM
Wife sits on the pavement? :)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on July 24 2012, 11:30:10 AM
Wife sits on the pavement? :)

LOL... no Natasha wasn't there. Her racing season is done due to the Camaro being wrecked and being in the early stages of pregnancy. So hanging out in the heat and humidity is a no go.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 08 2012, 09:06:39 PM
This Winter's project... build a TH400. Why? Why not!?!

Seriously though I just want a more effective transmission for Auto-X - engine braking in gear is a must with a car this friggin' heavy. This core was $200 CDN, so not a bad deal so far (until I open it).

According to this (http://books.google.ca/books?id=KKPcTD4nxBsC&printsec=frontcover&dq=How+to+Work+with+and+Modify+the+Turbo+Hydra-Matic+400+Transmission++By+Ron+Sessions&source=bl&ots=CiIadUt0vq&sig=b1ytyjXFnumVIrNZVvOjn_2JQ0I&hl=en&ei=kri3S5CUNaT4MoL1ueEL&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false (http://books.google.ca/books?id=KKPcTD4nxBsC&printsec=frontcover&dq=How+to+Work+with+and+Modify+the+Turbo+Hydra-Matic+400+Transmission++By+Ron+Sessions&source=bl&ots=CiIadUt0vq&sig=b1ytyjXFnumVIrNZVvOjn_2JQ0I&hl=en&ei=kri3S5CUNaT4MoL1ueEL&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false)) it came out of a '68 full size Buick with a 430.

Picked up a few pointers here: http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480495 (http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480495)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 09 2012, 09:46:43 AM
The 400 is a pretty simple, but heavy, tranny.  Long ago, I built my first one with a B&M Transkit.  Later I converted it to a switchpitch.   Last I heard it had over 30 years on it and was still running.  There must be a jillion versions of them out there today.  Keep it clean and check the clearances and it will be hard to go wrong on.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 09 2012, 08:31:05 PM
I am hoping that with enough rollerized updates this will be a nice piece to replace the TH400 already in the car.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 10 2012, 07:11:31 PM
My best friend's daughter, my pseudo-niece, turns one in just a few days. This past weekend we made a trip down to see friends and family and as part of the trip we hooked little Neha up with a pimped out Princess Cozy Coupe for this very special occasion. Natasha put me up to using all the stickers I picked up while on the Power Tour, among many others I had laying around, and let me tell you applying stickers to convex and concave forms are a bitch to do. But, she is worth the effort.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on August 12 2012, 02:16:04 PM
You need an IHADAV8.COM sticker on there. :p
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 12 2012, 07:14:40 PM
Good Job!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 13 2012, 07:14:23 AM
You need an IHADAV8.COM sticker on there. :p

Do you want my mailing address? ;)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 13 2012, 07:19:15 AM
Oh, I should add that I put the grille back in my car. After the last auto-x (2-3 weeks ago) I got home to find the grille sagging in the header panel. I left it like that and haven't driven the car since (various reasons including disgust).

The car is now ready to be raced again this weekend.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on August 13 2012, 11:26:27 AM
You need an IHADAV8.COM sticker on there. :p

Do you want my mailing address? ;)

Hmmm.. I need to ask Reckless Rawb where he got them made up. I may have a few left in the garage...

The one on the front of my ATV is a lot more scratched up now. Damn tree branches.. :D
(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z337/Supersix231/DSC00355sm.jpg)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: ULYCYC on August 14 2012, 12:52:54 PM
Mike here's some inspiration  for you :icon_smile:

Gma's 2nd RallyX run (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RcmNr4kbaQ#ws)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 14 2012, 04:23:29 PM
I wish I was half that good... :(
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 14 2012, 04:36:07 PM
basically, 12 psi
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 14 2012, 07:03:32 PM
I fuuuugggggggin' posted this update in the wrong thread! Can you tell I have too many cars?

Maybe an admin will be kind enough to move Steve and my posts?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on August 14 2012, 07:25:00 PM
I fuuuugggggggin' posted this update in the wrong thread! Can you tell I have too many cars?

Maybe an admin will be kind enough to move Steve and my posts?

I can't move individual posts to other threads - just open the Monte thread in another tab/window (http://www.ihadav8.com/forum/index.php?topic=3016 (http://www.ihadav8.com/forum/index.php?topic=3016)), click "Modify" on the thread you posted incorrectly, go to the correct thread, reply, and copy and paste into the correct thread. Once you do, I will delete these.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 14 2012, 08:38:32 PM
Done. LOL.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 18 2012, 10:39:31 PM
Going to the strip in the morning... about 2 hours away near Montreal. Hopefully the car survives otherwise my racing season is pretty much done for. I suppose I could race the TrailBlazer?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 19 2012, 05:36:43 PM
Power Logger files and video to follow... but, it is about friggin' time this car got out of the 12s.

EDIT: I'll be able to explain the slower passes with the files and videos.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 19 2012, 06:50:01 PM
1191at112mph (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMS3KWwIovg#ws)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Just a Six? on August 19 2012, 06:59:14 PM
Mike your MPH is low?? Is that the 308? gears (I remember you changed the them?) 
 
GOOD Smoke show!!  :rock:
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 19 2012, 07:53:34 PM
Mike your MPH is low?? Is that the 308? gears (I remember you changed the them?) 
 
GOOD Smoke show!!  :rock:

Nope not the gears. I am pretty certain it is 20-30% converter slippage... that it was pig rich on the run. THAT and it picked up some MPH when I leaned it out some.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Just a Six? on August 19 2012, 08:13:02 PM
At BPG my 26 lb chip never saw more than 20 lbs (not intentional) I picked up .4 in the 60 with 10% less fuel in the chip. I was quite shocked it affected it that much but it was pig rich & very Hot out. Amazing what some tweaking will do with these cars!
Sounds like you had Fun!!  :atbeer: :atbeer: :atbeer:
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 19 2012, 09:19:32 PM
Now this is the story all about how,
 My life got flipped, turned upside down,
 And I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there,
 I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air.


No it's not. ;)

Okay here are the PL files:
http://whitetrashdesign.ca/buicktuning/19%20Aug%2012%20Napierville.zip (http://whitetrashdesign.ca/buicktuning/19%20Aug%2012%20Napierville.zip)

Run 1 - 11.91 @ 112.24mph
Run 2 - 12.01 @ 112.95mph
Run 3 - 12.24 @ 112.80mph

In your PL config setting the car is using an LC1 WB02, 3 Bar Map, EGT is currently dead, Analog 4 is Pressure 100psi (fuel pressure) and Analog 5 is Correction Factor (from the MAF T Pro). You can set the converter slippage in 3rd & 4th gear to 47.1 (a random number for a TH400) to see the horrible issue I seem to be dealing with here.

The car had a full, and I mean FULL, tank of gas during these runs (there is a Shell station outside the gates where we filled up before entering). I dropped the pressure in the Nitto NT05Rs to 18psi and left them there. I also trigger the launch assist in the chip and set the fans to race-mode (160*F turn on point). Those are the constants. Use Commanded WOT Spark Advance to see the programmed curve in each run.

Run 1. You can see here that the car builds about 8psi on the footbrake and spools to nearly 21psi before it even leave the line! Very weird delay. Took off so hard I almost shit myself. There is a hint of wheel spin between the RPM and VSS readings. That also has to be the most KR I have seen in this car in years (before Run 2 at least). I am slightly convinced the fuel in my tank is a crap batch. You can also see that the Boost is doing some wonky fluctuations.. . almost like it is causing the KR spikes. It is important to note the Boost was set at 25psi, not 30+psi as the PL log is showing. AFR is pig rich regardless, it was set to TAF of 11.5:1 (LOL... lot of good that did).

1191at112mph (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMS3KWwIovg#ws)

Run 2. I pulled 10% fuel for this run and a half degree of timing across the board in hopes of making it speed the car up. It did. However, it also got the car all KR happy. Again the KR oscillates with the boost - wierd. Launched the car softer this time and it still spun causing me to short shift. The car actually shut off on me during my attempt to do a burn out... see video for a laugh - you can see my head roll around in disgust.

1201at113mph (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOUieIywZn4#ws)

Run 3. Added 5% fuel back in and pulled copious amounts of timing to bring the KR back into line. The car kept the MPH up at the top end after leaving really hard and blowing the tires away at the line thanks to a 10-18psi launch! The KR is more managable and the AFR is closer to 11:1 (God only know what propane and ethanol mixed in there does to a target AFR - I imagine it is like testing for the stoich of troll piss). And 50% converter slippage at the start of 3rd gear?! WTF?!

1224at113mph (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axn5Jtel7yI#ws)

Feedback on these and other issues found are very welcome.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Steve Wood on August 19 2012, 10:19:30 PM
If you ever run out of propane and have to rely on alky alone, you will probably pick up half a second if you dial it in
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 20 2012, 11:31:05 AM
If you ever run out of propane and have to rely on alky alone, you will probably pick up half a second if you dial it in

We'll save this bet for the Fall. ;)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 26 2012, 04:05:07 PM
I've been busy monkeying around w/MAFT Pro: http://www.fullthrottletech.com/showthread.php?t=6744 (http://www.fullthrottletech.com/showthread.php?t=6744) and it is still an ongoing saga. Unfortunately I hit a road block when I noticed my oil vapour catch-can had blown a seal. So I had to rebuild it... this time from scratch... before going back out for more testing.

I hate not having AutoCAD on this computer... so here it is sketched in Photoshop. 3" dia and 6" long; filled with those coarse metal scouring pads from the supermarket - this time it is sealed and not serviceable (not that it should fail internally). I'll take a picture of it when the paint is finished drying.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 11 2012, 09:20:07 PM
Natasha and I went to the last cruise night of the year tonight... we really liked what parked next to us. Old school and new school luxo-bruisers.

I am pretty sure we'll have one of these CTS-Vs in the next year.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: I Love Factory ECMs on September 13 2012, 01:57:16 AM
Feedback on these and other issues found are very welcome.
If your using the stock ECM, Loose it for an Aftermarket Unit,(yea there costly but so's motor rebuilds)  your right over 100mph whoa's will Vanish, It's not the tranny,I hit this wall couple years ago,
Enjoy!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 13 2012, 09:37:25 AM
What vendor told you that?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: I Love Factory ECMs on September 13 2012, 04:26:31 PM
What vendor told you that?
Self Experienced (long story short,3 motors,$30,000,lawsuit won,started over again with XFI unit,problem Gone!) an other GN experts that have hit "the wall",80's ECM aren't made for 600+ hp modern builds,you can try to get it to work,but best to get the right parts in first place, An aftermarket ECM
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on September 13 2012, 04:33:41 PM
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Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 13 2012, 05:31:39 PM
Your experiences don't seem to match the majority :)  to each his own, I guess
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 13 2012, 11:18:12 PM
I guess it is a good thing I am not making 600hp yet. 425 if I am lucky.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: I Love Factory ECMs on September 14 2012, 04:24:13 PM
I guess it is a good thing I am not making 600hp yet. 425 if I am lucky.
I must missed something,i read the first post about your build,Less the i guess bonestock motor an 3:08's,everything else you have should of put you in low 11's...60's series turbo an 83lbsr's on Alky an the rest the additive's an only 12's? With Bonestock motor,still under dealer factory warrenty, i bolted on one 150hp NOS kit an ran 11.99@119 with tall L60 McCeary's,stock chip,19-20psi on NOS. With all your mods an money spent,an aftermarket ECM good investment (only about $3000 an plug right in, in less then hour!) ,Love you ride by the way, in the cornering photo's it's Tight, no slag..
Enjoy!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 14 2012, 05:25:44 PM
I guess it is a good thing I am not making 600hp yet. 425 if I am lucky.
I must missed something,i read the first post about your build,Less the i guess bonestock motor an 3:08's,everything else you have should of put you in low 11's...60's series turbo an 83lbsr's on Alky an the rest the additive's an only 12's? With Bonestock motor,still under dealer factory warrenty, i bolted on one 150hp NOS kit an ran 11.99@119 with tall L60 McCeary's,stock chip,19-20psi on NOS. With all your mods an money spent,an aftermarket ECM good investment (only about $3000 an plug right in, in less then hour!) ,Love you ride by the way, in the cornering photo's it's Tight, no slag..
Enjoy!

Okay we aren't exactly comparing apples to apples here. Yes, the engine is a stone stock 100K+mile long block with the original head gaskets and bearings (a few seals and valve springs had been replaced 10 years ago)... and it went 11.90 on low profile DRs thank you very much. ;) A lot of the "money spent" was on the concept of keeping it together (no knock and a 11:1 AFR), and to date I have been pretty successful at not fragging this 25 year old lump. And also as you stated the car doesn't subscribe to any traditional suspension formula, which leaves a lot of performance potential on the table.

I am hoping to run the car again in October with some good air and the taller drag radials to see what it can do.

Glad you are enjoying the thread.  :icon_eyes:
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: I Love Factory ECMs on September 14 2012, 05:42:53 PM
My car Suspenionaly set-up as well,Aerospace Prostreet Disk brakes all round (9" in the back) BMR full set control arms upper/lower front rear,Q1A's custom rated coil over all around,28mm rear sway,22mm front adjustable on hime joints,Urethane bushing in frame an All suspension components ,less a Bronze Bushing in upper rear passenger side A-Arm bushing (They melt due to downpipes),all frame bracing including the weld in on the rear lower's with 16 gauge steel rearseat firewall (to save my a-pillar from cracking my paint) It's lowerd 1 1/2" in front an 2" in the rear running 295/40-18's in back an 255/40-18 in front Falken Anzenis r615's   8^)   I fire it up again for first time next week (knocking on wood) the builds in the central FL section,motors a whole other story...;^) Enjoy!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 14 2012, 06:19:34 PM
My car Suspenionaly set-up as well,Aerospace Prostreet Disk brakes all round (9" in the back) BMR full set control arms upper/lower front rear,Q1A's custom rated coil over all around,28mm rear sway,22mm front adjustable on hime joints,Urethane bushing in frame an All suspension components ,less a Bronze Bushing in upper rear passenger side A-Arm bushing (They melt due to downpipes),all frame bracing including the weld in on the rear lower's with 16 gauge steel rearseat firewall (to save my a-pillar from cracking my paint) It's lowerd 1 1/2" in front an 2" in the rear running 295/40-18's in back an 255/40-18 in front Falken Anzenis r615's   8^)   I fire it up again for first time next week (knocking on wood) the builds in the central FL section,motors a whole other story...;^) Enjoy!

Um... okay. But, why are you plugging your car in my thread? I mean there is a certain irony in this given I created this thread to avoid doing the same to others... but, still I find it a little odd. And believe it or not I am well aware of your car and the "money spent". I am just not sure if in this dick measuring contest I want to pull mine all the way out or not?  :chin:
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: I Love Factory ECMs on September 14 2012, 06:49:24 PM
My car Suspenionaly set-up as well,Aerospace Prostreet Disk brakes all round (9" in the back) BMR full set control arms upper/lower front rear,Q1A's custom rated coil over all around,28mm rear sway,22mm front adjustable on hime joints,Urethane bushing in frame an All suspension components ,less a Bronze Bushing in upper rear passenger side A-Arm bushing (They melt due to downpipes),all frame bracing including the weld in on the rear lower's with 16 gauge steel rearseat firewall (to save my a-pillar from cracking my paint) It's lowerd 1 1/2" in front an 2" in the rear running 295/40-18's in back an 255/40-18 in front Falken Anzenis r615's   8^)   I fire it up again for first time next week (knocking on wood) the builds in the central FL section,motors a whole other story...;^) Enjoy!

Um... okay. But, why are you plugging your car in my thread? I mean there is a certain irony in this given I created this thread to avoid doing the same to others... but, still I find it a little odd. And believe it or not I am well aware of your car and the "money spent". I am just not sure if in this dick measuring contest I want to pull mine all the way out or not?  :chin:

Just passing on some useful info for later in your build, But that's cool,I'm gone
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 15 2012, 09:08:37 AM
Hey... no harm. Just curious is all.

I do suppose the specs on my suspension aren't very detailed in this thread.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 22 2012, 07:33:16 PM
Well she is all ready to go for the last auto-x of the season. Had to fix a broken exhaust hanger... seems to be getting around?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 22 2012, 08:33:56 PM
Looks like I have one as well
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: earlbrown on September 23 2012, 02:16:27 AM
Me too. (and a new current draw that killing my battery)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Steve Wood on September 23 2012, 09:18:02 AM
I always start by disconnecting all connectors on the delay relay, but I suspect you made that "improvement" many years ago. 

I guess you verified that you do have a draw and did not assume the new battery is good.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 26 2012, 08:50:52 PM
From Sunday...
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: daveismissing on September 26 2012, 09:08:44 PM
Happy with your times?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: SuperSix on September 27 2012, 08:14:11 AM
Awesome!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 27 2012, 08:31:32 AM
Happy with your times?

I was about 8 seconds off the FTD (fastest time of the day) which for this platform isn't bad considering the two quickest cars were a Nissan 240SX and C6 Vette on race spec tires. It was definitely the best event I ran this year; even if the throttle is a damn on/off switch.
 
The coolest thing about running this car at an Auto-X is the conversations it generates; most people can't comprehend it being out there.
 
However, for next season Natasha and I are thinking of doing a few mods (suspension and tires) to her Camaro and making it a real performer. I suppose I am getting tired of not being competitive; this could end badly. ;)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on October 03 2012, 08:13:51 PM
A few more...
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on January 03 2013, 10:39:16 AM
So yesterday I pulled the Buick out of the heated garage (steady 57*F) out into the Winter cold so that I could do a subwoofer install in our TrailBlazer SS.  When it came time to put the Buick back in the garage the air temp (with windchill) was -17*F!  Let's just say that even with a fully charged battery it reluctantly cranked over, eventually fired after 10 attempts, and sounded like banging pots and pans for a few moments until it started to idle... I am pretty sure the 20w50 in the crankcase had something to do with that.  Even after it was running and idling around 1200rpm you could feel the car fighting the near frozen fluids in the trans and diff... not to mention driving on ice with drag radials is always an adventure.

I think I am going to pick up some of this oil (better zinc levels and low temp start up) the next time it goes on sale: http://www.castrol.com/castrol/genericarticle.do?categoryId=82915470&contentId=7032644 (http://www.castrol.com/castrol/genericarticle.do?categoryId=82915470&contentId=7032644)

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2365766 (http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2365766)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 28 2013, 08:37:27 PM
I actually drove it for the first time this season today... feels pretty good at just 22psi!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 03 2013, 08:27:57 PM
Well no project related movement is usually a good thing with this car... so look what I found today. That was a section of my -6 AN return line - not an awesome discovery. I made a new section of line and fixed a busted exhaust hanger.

Oh and I 'dipped the wheels...
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: daveismissing on June 03 2013, 09:19:36 PM
Do you have a before and after of the wheels?
Where was the line to have that happen?
/
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 04 2013, 07:46:25 AM
Do you have a before and after of the wheels?
Where was the line to have that happen?
/

This thread is full of before pics.
 
As for the fuel line it was a poorly routed because it was made excessively long.  The builder (not I) sandwiched it between the rear shock/spring crossmember that runs between the frame rails.  From what I can tell it was left loose enough to rub against the frame over the years until it wore through.  I managed to make the line 2 feet shorter and run it more directly/safely to the tank.

Some people's children.  :rolleyes;
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 24 2013, 09:28:09 AM
Well I waxed the car this weekend and it didn't make any difference in its appearance.  I suppose that is a good sign.

I also started tuning the car again.  I am maintaining a 10.8-11.2ish AFR under 26psi of boost (with both the alky and propane spraying; and 56% DC on the 83lb/hr injectors (LOL).

There is a problem in the software for the MAFT Pro as it is scaling my timing down.  I can't get more than 20* in 1st and 2nd at WOT, and that translates to a 1* reduction in 3rd.  The problem is there is supposed to be a 4* drop in 3rd, down from 24* at the top of 1st/2nd gear.

I had to keep pulling boost to control the KR.  So pissed... other than the fact the car runs great at 26psi @ 19* timing (with 1* KR I can't tune out right now).  Time to contact Bob Bailey, assuming I can pry him away from his SD II chip duties.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: phil_long on June 24 2013, 03:46:12 PM
You got a sweet car Mike.  I can't wait to get mine running half as good yours.  Looks great too!!!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 24 2013, 05:28:59 PM
You got a sweet car Mike.  I can't wait to get mine running half as good yours.  Looks great too!!!

Thanks.  But, there are days when I am convinced this car is utter crap... I've had about my fill with the headaches of chasing the MAFT Pro around.

Maybe this is why I am shopping around for an LS2 GTO?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Scoobum on June 25 2013, 11:06:54 PM
Mike, I have a FAST system coming out of a car in the next couple of days. It's gonna go cheap. I can send pics...just need your e-mail addy.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 27 2013, 08:27:17 AM
Thanks for the offer Brad.  But, I am pretty much through sinking money into this car.  I am going to do a few cosmetic things and then list it for sale (again).
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 06 2014, 09:07:15 AM
Almost a year later - a wild update appears!

Just washed it, put a sticker on the plate, and went to get some fresh 91 octane (at a $1.50/L)...

As I was getting set to leave when this guy (plus the bonus sleeve of tattoos) had just pulled up in his new black 5.0 Mustang:
(http://alden-tan.com/wp-content/uploads/douchebag-posing.jpg)

And he is doing his best to comprehend the awesomeness that is my Buick vice his "I just have 3000 more payments to go" new car...

Luckily my car started on the first try (LOL)... and as I was pulling away from the pump and heading out of the station as his surely vapid girlfriend almost broke her neck checking me... err... I mean the Buick... out.

It took everything in my power to not yell over my 4" exhaust "Hey, buddy! Your girl really likes my car!!!  Can she come for a ride?"

Ha. Good times.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: deathraider6996 on May 06 2014, 10:10:26 AM
Roflmfao!

Sent while curing depression with boost.

Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 23 2014, 03:20:54 PM
Sooooooo... I have officially run out of propane.  More specifically my tanks need to be recertified.  This occurs every 12 years... hard to believe that I have been running it that long.  I am going to see what it costs for recert vs replacement - may just go from a 5lb tank to a 33.5lb horizontal mount.  Or just stick with alky and move the propane into another project...
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: good2win22 on June 23 2014, 03:36:21 PM
Hydrostatic testing isn't cheap...  Probably cost effective to go to one of those propane rental places and turn yours in for a full one with a good test date
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 23 2014, 08:42:32 PM
Hydrostatic testing isn't cheap...  Probably cost effective to go to one of those propane rental places and turn yours in for a full one with a good test date

The only problem is that the 5lb tanks I use are like hen's teeth... it is only about $300 to upgrade to an aluminum horizontal tank with the mounting clamps.  Would be pretty trick to run propane with a high compression N/A LS-engine.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: daveismissing on June 24 2014, 08:44:27 AM
http://www.truevalue.com/product/Outdoor-Living-Patio-Furniture/Grills-Outdoor-Cooking/Propane-Tanks/Propane-Tank-5-Lb/pc/12/c/178/sc/1584/10933.uts (http://www.truevalue.com/product/Outdoor-Living-Patio-Furniture/Grills-Outdoor-Cooking/Propane-Tanks/Propane-Tank-5-Lb/pc/12/c/178/sc/1584/10933.uts)

http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=21226816&CA_6C15C=1922331587 (http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=21226816&CA_6C15C=1922331587)

http://www.propanetankstore.com/5-lb-1-2-gallon-cylinder/ (http://www.propanetankstore.com/5-lb-1-2-gallon-cylinder/)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 24 2014, 09:03:19 AM
Yep... all in the US. Up here we pay twice that price for a new tank, and it is unlikely it can be exchanged.  If I am going state-side to pick one up, it is going to be an upgrade.

Right now I am fine driving the car with the boost/timing turned down on just an old SMC alky kit filled with E85.  The wagon is eating up all of my play money anyway... lol.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: daveismissing on June 24 2014, 09:38:46 AM
Well, if I had a brother that lived near the border..... :)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on June 24 2014, 07:48:42 PM
Well, if I had a brother that lived near the border..... :)

Ha!  Actually I do all my own parts runs now.  If things line up, I may have a solution in hand by early August. ;)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 19 2014, 09:20:31 PM
So rather than fiddling with the wagon I took it upon myself last night to prep the Buick for a little family outing to the local car show tonight.  Interestingly enough it was about a year ago that I last took Tatiana to the car show, only this time she brought her own ride... after hitching a ride in Daddy's.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on November 08 2014, 04:46:25 PM
topped it off with gas and added fuel stabilizer, took it through the touchless car wash, and tossed a cover on it... all just before it started snowing.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: xpander343 on November 08 2014, 06:39:34 PM
stuck with it for another winter
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on November 08 2014, 06:54:25 PM
stuck with it for another winter

Best offer I have had that hasn't come through is a trade for '65 Nova SS... sigh.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on January 07 2015, 06:16:47 PM
Well since it isn't moving quickly (duh, it is Winter).  I've decided to start de-modding the car.

I'll be switching it back to stockish by:
- Adding A/C (parts are waiting);
- Pulling the MAFT Pro and friends (ie. 83lb/hr injectors, modified ECM, WB02, transducers, etc) and going back to a NBO2 and chip set up (might even run a Thrasher 92 chip and stock injectors) - gonna need a basic MAFT to run the LS1/LS2/LS6 MAFs I have kicking around;
- Yanking the TH400 and switching back to a 200-4R (from the Monte);
- No more propane since the tanks have expired;
- Off come the Simmons, on go whatever I can find in a 15" rim;
- Turbo and FMIC will be coming off, and put stock parts in their place;
- I am going to have to re-source a stock DP and elbow and do something about the 4" exhaust on the car too;
- The suspension and brakes will go back to stock-like too since most of that is laying around here; and
- I may even cut out the roll bar, or at least modify the harness bar to be more family friendly.

Other than that a general clean up will occur - it may be more marketable too.

I'd like to put the fuel system back to stock too... but, that could be a headache in its own right.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: xpander343 on January 08 2015, 11:28:21 PM
probably the day after you finally sell it, the guy that buys it will be on one of the boards asking about upgrading everything you had already had done and then undone.    Everyone wants to buy a stock one, but no one wants to drive a stock one.   People are weird.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on January 10 2015, 08:06:46 AM
probably the day after you finally sell it, the guy that buys it will be on one of the boards asking about upgrading everything you had already had done and then undone.    Everyone wants to buy a stock one, but no one wants to drive a stock one.   People are weird.

Yeah, that is how I hope to make some of the financial difference.  I've had offers of about $3000 just for the wheels.

It is very annoying - I purposely bought my car because it had a rollbar and serious fuel system. But, it had no engine and got a stock one out of another car - and it was a process to get it into the 11s.  Fun sure - but a process.

Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on January 30 2015, 02:08:01 PM
Well it looks like I will have everything to de-mod the car later this Spring.

Gonna be one boring transformation .

If anyone wants the "cool-guy" parts off my car just ask. ;)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: good2win22 on January 30 2015, 04:45:39 PM
How far are you going on the de-mod?  I may interested in a few things
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on January 31 2015, 06:01:55 AM
How far are you going on the de-mod?  I may interested in a few things

Pretty far - already working on a list (prices in retail, so assume a 50-75% return) of just the underhood/transmission stuff.  The suspension and wheels should knock another 3-4 grand off the perceived value of the car; getting it closer to "stock", and a more marketable figure (~$9-10K).  Shoot me a list of what you are interested in and I'll keep a note.  I cannot promise that I will be quick to pull the parts due to work, school, and another baby due in 4 weeks; but, the parts will be good quality and well packaged.
 
MAF Translater Pro
$400.00
Capsers' PnP Harness
$140.00
Extender Pro Chip
$95.00
LC-1 Wide Band O2
$200.00
Power Logger
$265.00
EGT Amplifier
$50.00
High Boost Control Solenoid
$80.00
High Boost Harness
$15.00
(8) Low-Z 83 lb/h Injectors
$390.00
(2) Modified ECMs
$250.00
$1,885.00
Double Pumper Fuel Hanger
$475.00
10AN Modified Fuel Rail
$100.00
TH400 w/4130 3" CM Driveshaft
$1,800.00
Garrett T63E Turbo
$500.00
3" MPE Downpipe
$470.00
4" Exhaust System w/Magnaflow
$600.00
FMIC w/2.5" Aluminum Pipes
$700.00
4" MAF Pipe w/Filter & Coupler
$160.00
$6,690.00 Total
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on January 31 2015, 06:06:03 AM
Oh yeah! I need a good stock turbo, and a stock fuel rail with the FP regulator.

So partial trades plus cash, are welcome!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 12 2015, 08:56:00 PM
And the stock parts keep rolling in... OEM ECM (unopened until a few moments ago) with the ACXA chip, and I believe an OEM MAF sensor.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: good2win22 on May 12 2015, 10:28:20 PM
MAF looks like an original with the plug pointed down.


Still have the wide band?  Is it complete?  I think I would like to start learning the wide band while leaving the narrow band installed as well. Shoot me some details and price.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: nocooler on May 13 2015, 08:02:51 AM
Mike - wasn't this car demodded when you got it?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on May 13 2015, 03:30:36 PM
Mike - wasn't this car demodded when you got it?

As in not having a 10 second capable engine - yes.  I built this car out of a roller and a rust bucket.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 19 2015, 10:06:34 PM
After sitting outside for the last 19 days, this car has been reduced to daily driver status because the TBSS is snowballing.  I am guessing it will be mid-Sept before it gets it garage space back.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 25 2015, 01:18:35 PM
Okay this is a weird situation that has come up this Summer.

While driving the car under normal conditions the fuel system seems to shut off, the WBO2 goes to 22.3:1 (full lean), and the car loses all engine power (other electronics are fine).  I can screw with the gas pedal and flick the secondary pump on and it sort of fixes the issue; and then the engine will suddenly fire up and drive fine.

The closest "solution" I have been able to find is this: http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/fuel-cut.408664/ (http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/fuel-cut.408664/)

Which makes me wonder if the oil pressure switch is fragged and is making the car kill the pump? But, according to Steve's site this not possible: http://www.vortexbuicks-etc.com/oil_pressure_senderoil_pressure.htm (http://www.vortexbuicks-etc.com/oil_pressure_senderoil_pressure.htm)

So WTF?!

Your thoughts please.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: good2win22 on August 25 2015, 01:57:18 PM
I had one die on me while driving.  No fuel pressure, couldn't here the pump running... nothing.  Checked the fuse and it was blown.  Perhaps you have a poor connection there at the fuse block?... Crappy connection at the sending unit?... Inside the tank?...
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 25 2015, 02:11:34 PM
I had one die on me while driving.  No fuel pressure, couldn't here the pump running... nothing.  Checked the fuse and it was blown.  Perhaps you have a poor connection there at the fuse block?... Crappy connection at the sending unit?... Inside the tank?...

Wouldn't that be awesome?  I just had that apart recently. Ha!  Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 25 2015, 07:58:43 PM
So the car cut out on me three times on the way home everytime I hit a good sized bump in the road.  When I got home I replaced the kill switch that is on the dark green/white wire at the fuel pump relay (I believe this is the exciter/trigger wire from the ECM to the relay).  I did confirm that flicking the switch definitely causes the car to shut down when running.

However, I will have to wait to test this theory as the car decided that its accessory drive belt need to lose some ribs.  So now I am on the hunt for quality replacement belt.  FML.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 25 2015, 09:17:18 PM
Found a belt, $38 later... I should have it in the AM.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 25 2015, 10:05:10 PM
And since I am being all about my car today... here is a good reason to run a catch can if you don't already.  Picked up another litre of 5w50 to start replacing what is missing.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 26 2015, 05:16:39 PM
New belt is on, almost could have gone to a 62" belt.

Still have to fix the burned out headlamp but the damn rain came.

And what was once the Goodyear Gatorback is now...
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 27 2015, 07:08:08 AM
Car still hates bumps... time to start smacking it around to find the source.  I think I saw my TPS hovering around .31v... gotta confirm that.

EDIT: It would be soooo awesome if it was something like this: http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/when-going-over-bumps-check-engine-light-comes-on-and-car-stalls.398958/ (http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/when-going-over-bumps-check-engine-light-comes-on-and-car-stalls.398958/)

This would be better: http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/random-stalling-and-check-engine-light-after-getting-my-car-back.383625/ (http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/random-stalling-and-check-engine-light-after-getting-my-car-back.383625/)

Ha!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 27 2015, 07:52:34 PM
Yup, .30-.31v shown on the MAFT Pro, bumped it up to .42-.43v (4.65 with the pedal mashed) in the parking lot.  I can only imagine what effect that was having on the car overall... but, it didn't cut out on the way home.

I also jiggled the ECM, power, and ground wires. Nothing of note happened.
Title: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: larrym on August 27 2015, 08:34:56 PM
No code?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 27 2015, 09:44:08 PM
No code?

Nope. None.

So I had a little time, like 30mins, to work on the car again tonight.  Anyway, I decided I would start working on the process of elimination. So I found a single pronged weatherpack connector from the MCSS harness (it was the 02 sensor lead)...

[aside]For any young enthusiasts out there reading along part a similar car or two out if you own any old beast, all the spare parts are a lifesaver.[/aside]

...and started building a new fused lead off the battery to take the factory wiring out of the equation (because it turns out that I had already cut the fusible link out years ago).  The car ran.  But, just for giggles (because I did a lot of reading on the bus ride home tonight) I decided to smack the steering wheel... and the car cut out/shutoff. Again. And again. And again.  It was really sensitive to smacks upward (like driving over a bump).  Now it looks like I either have to tighten screws inside the column, fix some wiring/switches, or both.

Quote from: novaderrik at the other board
do you have a tilt column? if it is loose, any little bump can cause the rod that goes from the key cylinder to the ignition switch to bump the switchslightly out of the "run" position just enough to kil lthe engine.
 i used to have an 87 Caprice cop car that would do that- it about scared the crap outta me the fiirst time i hit a bump going around a tight turn and the engine died and i lost my power steering..
 the fix is to pull the steering wheel, lock plate, and  turn signal switch and get in there with a torx bit and some blue loctite and tighten the screws that hold the top part of the column down. easy half hour fix if you have the proper tools and some patience.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: TexasT on August 27 2015, 10:02:52 PM
I have read the column especially a tilt can rub some wires "the wrong way", there by needing some attention. Don't feel bad. When I got home tonight and was in the driveway I pushed the shifter forward to park. I didn't feel it go to park and the column had not twisted to park so I twisted it there and got the trans into park. I crawled underneath and found I was missing the horseshoe piece that holds the cable on the bracket. I guess I will be shifting by the column collar tomorrow and until I can locate another horseshoe piece.

It seems nothing is easy.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 27 2015, 10:19:29 PM
Normally this is stuff I live to do... but, with the TBSS in pieces and the wagon not done it is just a piss off.

Here is how to fix a loose column:
http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/sucp-0707-tilt-steering-column/ (http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/sucp-0707-tilt-steering-column/)
http://www.buickperformanceclub.com/tiltsteeringcolumnwobble.htm (http://www.buickperformanceclub.com/tiltsteeringcolumnwobble.htm)
https://gbodyforum.com/threads/column-ignition-cylinder-fixing.49663/ (https://gbodyforum.com/threads/column-ignition-cylinder-fixing.49663/)
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 28 2015, 07:34:43 AM
Went out with a computer to reprogramme the chip with the PL since last night's reset.  Turns out that the ECM is seeing .48v at the TPS, which made for a fast idle on the drive in.  I guess I will have to split the difference between the MAFT Pro and ECM since both reference this damn thing.

But the car didn't stall on the drive... oddly enough.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 28 2015, 09:44:06 AM
Mike...just my 2 cents. You won't sell your car...cuz it's too complicated... even if you demod it. Here's proof. You know how simple my car is. To the general public...it isn't. Had my car up for sale...here's what happened each time. A perspective buyer shows up. As soon as I mention it has an adjustable chip and alky...they go screaming into the nite.

I made the decision to race the car with the guys out here in eastern Ontario when we can get together...cuz I'm sure as hell not giving it away. Keep road racing your car when time permits. One of these days your children won't have time for mom and dad...and you'll be glad you kept the car.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on August 28 2015, 01:48:08 PM
Mike...just my 2 cents. You won't sell your car...cuz it's too complicated... even if you demod it. Here's proof. You know how simple my car is. To the general public...it isn't. Had my car up for sale...here's what happened each time. A perspective buyer shows up. As soon as I mention it has an adjustable chip and alky...they go screaming into the nite.

I made the decision to race the car with the guys out here in eastern Ontario when we can get together...cuz I'm sure as hell not giving it away. Keep road racing your car when time permits. One of these days your children won't have time for mom and dad...and you'll be glad you kept the car.
You are absolutely right, it has been a pain.  But, I have sourced most everything to return the car to stock (still looking for a good stock turbo and wastegate, people).  Once I have everything in hand it is going to be sent out the door with a stock chip, injectors, intercooler, air conditioning, suspension, wheels... the works.  This car needs to go bye-bye (as cool as it is), so I can focus on building v2.0 of my MCSS.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: Scoobum on August 28 2015, 02:06:16 PM
And don't get me started about the idiots on Kijiji...
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on September 22 2015, 06:48:16 AM
Sooooo... I think I found the culprit.  I accidentally bumped the MAFT Pro yesterday with my Batman sunshade and the car shut off.  Lather, rinse, repeat. Play with the harness and it has been fine since - damn red wires.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on November 22 2015, 03:40:57 PM
Well that about concludes another Summer of fun with a car I cannot sell (or trade for something appealing).

Took it through a car wash because it is 0*C with the wind chill, quickly clayed the paint because the sun was out, hit it with a little detailing spray, and off to the storage unit tonight.  It is pretty sad when you have a three car garage and you still have to pay for storage...I really need to finish the Trail Blazer.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: good2win22 on November 22 2015, 11:10:50 PM
Somebody will want it.  Patience is a virtue but persistence to the point of success is a blessing. Car looks good!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on November 23 2015, 04:58:57 PM
Somebody will want it.  Patience is a virtue but persistence to the point of success is a blessing. Car looks good!

Thanks!

I am half tempted to have it restored again, it has been 10 years since the last time, fogging it with oil and sticking it in the corner for the girls in 14 years.  Tatiana was quite upset it was put away last night.
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 02 2016, 03:12:13 PM
Well we sold the Buick today; got a fair price for it.  The car has gone to a younger guy who was very excited about having it and all of its complexity.  Now back to the wagon, TBSS, and Monte Carlo... 
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: good2win22 on April 02 2016, 05:13:54 PM
Glad for you!  You've been trying to move that thing for a while. Now you can focus on hot wheels!
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: daveismissing on April 02 2016, 06:54:45 PM
With propane tanks?
Title: Re: My "All About My Buick" Thread
Post by: motorhead on April 02 2016, 08:31:12 PM
Glad for you!  You've been trying to move that thing for a while. Now you can focus on hot wheels!

Thanks, and yes I just spent the afternoon playing with the girls to remind myself of what is really important.

With propane tanks?

Yup, but not connected.  New owner needs to get the tank recertified.
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