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Title: Obama question (political)
Post by: tb3 on March 28 2011, 11:33:19 AM
if Obama is without a doubt and clearly a united states born citizen, then why won't he produce his original authorized birth certificate and put all this controversy to bed?
Title: Re: Obama question (political)
Post by: SuperSix on March 28 2011, 12:30:50 PM
A very valid question. Unfortunately, if you question it you are either labeled a racist, or a "birther" and written off as crazy.

Trump's take on it, which pretty mush sums it up for me:
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/trump-obama-birth-certficicate/2011/03/23/id/390547

I can't get a driver's license or passport without one, and I have mine 5 minutes away, or however long it takes me to open my safe.
Title: Re: Obama question (political)
Post by: tb3 on March 28 2011, 01:26:50 PM
wow! even Chris Mathews has the same question. what a mess!

so I wonder if I wanted to work for the secret service, and there was that much stuff from my past that was kept hush or hidden.... I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I probably wouldn't even be considered. but Obama gets to be president???
Title: Re: Obama question (political)
Post by: SuperSix on March 28 2011, 03:17:15 PM
Quote from: "tb3 @ Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:26 pm"
wow! even Chris Mathews has the same question. what a mess!

so I wonder if I wanted to work for the secret service, and there was that much stuff from my past that was kept hush or hidden.... I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I probably wouldn't even be considered. but Obama gets to be president???


A list of missing things (alleged)

Missing Records:
Occidental College records
Columbia College records
Columbia Thesis paper
Harvard College records
Selective Service Registration
Medical records
Illinois State Senate records
Illinois State Senate schedule
Law practice client list
A Certified Copy of your original Birth certificate
Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth
Harvard Law Review articles that were published
University of Chicago scholarly articles
Record of baptism
Etc and so forth.

The man is a ghost. Virtually no one remembers him from any school, Elementary, Jr high, high school, or even college.

I'm not saying or speculating anything, I just find it odd that such a person can ascend to the highest office in the USA.
Title: Obama question (political)
Post by: ULYCYC on March 28 2011, 03:32:49 PM
He came from a chocolate pod
Title: Obama question (political)
Post by: Top Speed on March 28 2011, 06:27:47 PM
illegitimate.  Plain and simple.
Title: Re: Obama question (political)
Post by: WE4_Roller on March 28 2011, 06:29:59 PM
There's lots of those pods in Kenya.   :bigeyes;
Title: Re: Obama question (political)
Post by: DCEPTCN on March 28 2011, 07:27:26 PM
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=275861
Title: Re: Obama question (political)
Post by: Just a Six? on March 28 2011, 08:15:55 PM
He ill show it just before the next election or he will lose. Maybe he is using that in some twisted way for his teams advantage in their minds?? Who knows???
I dont trust ANYONE in Politics! They are all Nuts!!  :rolleyes:
Title: Obama question (political)
Post by: Steve Wood on March 28 2011, 08:30:37 PM
wonder if DNA would show his mother to be his mother?
Title: Obama question (political)
Post by: SuperSix on March 28 2011, 08:53:58 PM
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/11400630/

HAHAHAHAHAHAH
Title: likely not...
Post by: Old Buzzard on March 29 2011, 05:31:40 PM
Quote from: "Steve Wood @ Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:30 pm"
wonder if DNA would show his mother to be his mother?


Dna is mutated when strained thru a bed sheet...
Title: Re: Obama question (political)
Post by: Racer X on March 30 2011, 12:15:11 AM
Quote from: "Just a Six? @ Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:15 pm"
He ill show it just before the next election or he will lose. Maybe he is using that in some twisted way for his teams advantage in their minds?? Who knows???
I dont trust ANYONE in Politics! They are all Nuts!!
Title: Re: Obama question (political)
Post by: gordyzx9r on March 30 2011, 12:19:51 AM
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:17 pm"
Quote from: "tb3 @ Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:26 pm"
wow! even Chris Mathews has the same question. what a mess!

so I wonder if I wanted to work for the secret service, and there was that much stuff from my past that was kept hush or hidden.... I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I probably wouldn't even be considered. but Obama gets to be president???


A list of missing things (alleged)

Quote
Missing Records:
Occidental College records
Columbia College records
Columbia Thesis paper
Harvard College records
Selective Service Registration
Medical records
Illinois State Senate records
Illinois State Senate schedule
Law practice client list
A Certified Copy of your original Birth certificate
Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth
Harvard Law Review articles that were published
University of Chicago scholarly articles
Record of baptism
Etc and so forth.


I don't think they're (all) missing, I think he sealed them.  But, pretty much every POTUS for the past few decades has sealed their personal records.  

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The man is a ghost. Virtually no one remembers him from any school, Elementary, Jr high, high school, or even college.


There are some videos/pics of him circulating from when he attended HS in HI.  IIRC, there is a pic where he wrote "King Obama" in wet cement near the HS he attended there.  

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I'm not saying or speculating anything, I just find it odd that such a person can ascend to the highest office in the USA.


I'm not sure what I think about it to tell the truth.  I really wish Romney would have got the GOP nod instead of McCain in the last election, because McCain is nuts and that's what cost the GOP the election IMHO.  If Palin or anyone else runs as an independent to draw the Tea Party votes then the GOP is screwed, again.  And Trump?  He's doing it for the "lulz".  

At first I didn't really pay much mind to the claims about President B. Hussein Obama's birth place, I had thought there would be a responsible entity that verifies this.

But there isn't.  There is nothing in the Constitution about verifying someone's eligibility, there are only a list of prerequisites.  But no where does it stipulate who verifies those prerequisites.

It's up to the states to do that.  And most of them don't, and some didn't even realize they were supposed to until recently.  This is why in the past couple of years a few states have quietly passed laws requiring candidates prove their birth place.  

In the past couple of elections, there was a man from Latin America who doesn't deny that he wasn't born in the USA.  But he's been running and even got on the ticket in a couple of states.  In states where he was caught, he had another man stand in for him.  

I really didn't question it until recently.  In a recent Social Security update I noticed my DOB was off my a few days and my middle initial was wrong.  So, I contacted the SS admin and was told to go to my nearest office to fix it and that I'd need my birth certificate.

I was born in CT but I've never had a birth certificate.  I've always used a certificate of live birth for anything official.  I even used it to enlist in the Army.  On the back of it, it even tells you what it can be used for and one of those things is to receive Social Security Benefits.  But I was denied service and told that I'd have to get a Birth Certificate.  I pointed out the part about using it to receive Social Security Benefits but they still said no, and I pushed the issue with their supervisors to the point where I was pretty irate.  It was then that I cracked a comment about how I could run for POTUS with the damn thing but I can't get my information fixed in a Social Security Administration office?  I didn't think CT had Birth Certificates because that's what I thought I'd been told in the past.  But they do...and now I have one.  But since I had to show this POTUS's administration mine...I think he should show me his.  The problem is, HI has some really odd laws about disclosure so barring a full blown congressional hearing I don't think anyone is ever going to see it.

Most of the arguements about his legitimacy can be debunked and have been on factcheck.org and/or snopes but there are some things which are odd.  Especially when family members like Michelle make comments about where his homeland is...
Title: Re: Obama question (political)
Post by: nocooler on April 01 2011, 09:39:14 AM
Who knows.....some one wanted him in office. I blame the masons!

I don't care for him, but he has done one thing that is great in my eyes. Lifting the lifetime medical insurance cap from 1 million to unlimited. I'm 31 and had over 1.1 million in medical bills alone last year. I'd be fucked if it hadn't gotten passed.
Title: Obama question (political)
Post by: Steve Wood on April 01 2011, 09:56:22 AM
Then we mark him down for one good thing!
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