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General => IHADAV8 Playground => Topic started by: gbsean on January 27 2011, 09:59:45 PM
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are we heading back to 11th thru 13th century with the Crusades..... with the revolts going on in Egypt...the confrontations in England and France... was NOSTRADAMUS right that the end is near....If history has taught us anything religious wars are never won...but I am a little afraid that the Muslims have the upper hand as today's Christians are wrapped up in themselves...w here the Muslims are united in a common cause...it is interesting that the Muslim religion has had a huge influence on western civilization.. .I do not think that in America it will be much of an issue...althou gh we have seen some influence but I am worried about Europe. With laws being adjusted to benefit the Muslim religion. When you emigrate to another country to seek a better way of life you should assimilate to that country not change it to suit your needs. I am afraid that America is becoming so politically correct that we will lose the American identity...
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you are mistaken in the Muslim vs Christian part...Christi ans have lost their way, and the non-believing descendants do not believe in anything but what they can get for nothing.
The fervent Muslims believe in a cause and the promise that the world will be theirs.
Therefore, we have a strongly ideological movement with serious motivation against a blob that sees no evil, etc.
this is a far worse scenario than the times of the Crusades...but, you correct, Europe is in deep do do.
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Sorry, but the Muslims are far from united. Actually, I'm not sorry, come to think of it. Come worship my golden calf, he gives not forgiveness and love, but milk and Krugerrands. You are all going to hell.
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especially Wood
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send me some Krugerrands!
I think the division in the Muslim world actually spurs them onward...both sides want to be the first in the charge...after they have taken over, then they will fight it out with one another
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and the atheists shall inherit the earth. I believe people are basically the same the world over, and planet-wide domination, though it may sound appealing, is just too damn much work for the 99.99+ percent of the lazy-assed non-fanatics of the world.
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Again, I disagree...Ath eists don't believe in anything so they cannot understand, or take seriously, those that are fanatical about a cause....
At any rate, Muslims have become a very disruptive force in Europe and the the politically correct socialist governments don't dare to put them in their place.
So...the question is..will the muslims take charge, or will some extremely left or right wing group seize power using the Muslim threat as the rallying cry? It ain't good
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i prefer to look at it sociologically, and figure that humans are nothing more than hairless apes, with predictable behavior, and a history from which to accurately predict that behavior. I see no group uniting under a common flag, especially a religious one, and becoming a serious threat to world order. A threat to peace, yes, but not to the everyday function and inner workings.
Most religions, and religious people, cannot even function as a cohesive unit at the micro level, let alone the macro. There simply aren't enough fanatics to effect widespread change, which would take decades, if not longer.
Most wars are lost through the attrition of will, rather than manpower.
I fear that terrorist attacks like 9/11, or the recent Moscow attacks, will become more frequent, and that is the real danger we face from fanatics.
Only time will tell, I suppose.
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wil[/i]l become more frequent, and that is the real danger we face from fanatics.
Only time will tell, I suppose.
so true. its very scary times... but i'm worried the people that were attacked will up the ante. i read somewhere the putin said that russia will have merciless retaliation on who ever bombed the airport..
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That's what Steve was alluding to. I think that it is a good possibility that some far left or far right group will seize the opportunity to use the Muslim threat to further their own agenda. In fact, I suppose many already are.
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afraid we are going to find out....
different topic, kinda, I see they found a book in AZ that was published in Iran glorifying suicide bombers...this was out in the desert.
From the local immigration guys, we hear stories all the time about people they catch that are pakistani, etc., that are carrying large amounts of money, etc. It is strange that few, if any, of these ever makes news....it is as if it is hushed up. It seems they cross the border, go to an airport, or bus station and go who knows where. I suspect we have many that are not caught that have entered illegally.
I have to wonder if the government keeps it quiet trying to prevent worry, or if they are trying to track them to see where they go.
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steve you could only hope they are just trucking to see where they go. but again.. you also need to wonder if this is the norm and we just never have heard about this before... as much anyway.
the news also likes to mask it with "muslims are peace loving people"
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Not to worry the Jews are well focused and will wipe out any serious threat with or without help.
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uh ohh..... i see red regal t just signed up
get ready for it
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Again, I disagree...Ath eists don't believe in
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unbiased mediator?
We are dealing with a fanatism that directs its followers to fly airplanes into buildings, sends suicide bombers into crowds, airports, train stations, etc. with the promise of a pass straight to Heaven.
You are trying to apply ration to a completely irrational mindset from your point of view.
At the moment, only the Israelis understand the situation for what it is while the rest of the world is attempting to apply western logic to the matter.
Most of the western world has lost its direction and is consumed by a "me, me, me" mentality. We don't strongly believe in anything whether it be the common good of the nation, or any other singular belief. We don't comprehend the dangers that await us while Nero fiddles away.
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unbiased mediator?
We are dealing with a fanatism that directs its followers to fly airplanes into buildings, sends suicide bombers into crowds, airports, train stations, etc. with the promise of a pass straight to Heaven.
You are trying to apply ration to a completely irrational mindset from your point of view.
At the moment, only the Israelis understand the situation for what it is while the rest of the world is attempting to apply western logic to the matter.
Most of the western world has lost its direction and is consumed by a "me, me, me" mentality.
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Christians are no longer a player in this game...This is about the promise of Allah to the Muslims that the world belongs to them and the Jews who have a serious disagreement with that belief.
The rest of us don't comprehend that the Muslims really believe this.
I am old, and I have no compunction against shooting mad dogs no matter how many legs they may possess, but, I would not be surprised to find a number of people that believe they should be cured....
Changing the subject a bit...consider in another generation if the power grid and Net go down. We will have pale people in the street that have never actually had a face to face conversation with anyone.
That will be the beginning of the zombie apocalypse
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I know that George Carlin made this point by noting his youth spent swimming in the Hudson River, but it bears repeating- kids these days are fucking wimps. I was in a Taco Bell yesterday (don't ask) and saw a poster comemmorating the life of the Colonel. That motherfucker was born in 1890 and lived to be 90 years old. Shit, these days my TV keeps trying to tell me that if I even think about eating fried chicken skin I'll die right there in my Converses.
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Hare Krishna rules :rolleyes:
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If one of your animals was rabid how much getting your head around the thing would you do beyond shooting it and leaving it for the coyotes?
You have to really get rid of it. The coyotes will catch it too if you leave it for them to eat.
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x2 on our kids being raised as spoiled little wimps these days.
how sad it must be for the baby boomer generation (and older), to be watching this country fall right into the crapper as we have taken on so many socialistic laws and values over the last several decades :sad;
the way i figure it... for all my hellrazing and not so popular things i have done the first 30 years of my life....at least i haven't brought a child into this screwed up world. hopefully the lord will take that into consideration when i'm standing before the throne one day :sad;
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baby boomers started this crap....starte d spoiling their kids without discipline and an over indulgence of material goods with no work required to earn such....not to mention the schools were given the task of replacing mother and daddy without any of the tools required to raise kids
Schools have become unsupervised day care centers rather than being centers of education
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Time for one TV households again. Force the kids to watch Ed Sullivan and Wagon Train reruns with grandpa.
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baby boomers started this crap....starte d spoiling their kids without discipline and an over indulgence of material goods with no work required to earn such....not to mention the schools were given the task of replacing mother and daddy without any of the tools required to raise kids
Schools have become unsupervised day care centers rather than being centers of education
100% true steve. i know we grew up in way diffrent times but, by the time i have kids there will be no such thing as losing, everyone is equal to another, everyone deserves a fair chance over the person who is qualified for the job and the world is a great place!
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its all Dr Spocks fault
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its all Dr Spocks fault
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I wonder if a million people marched to DC and told Obama to get out of office if he would leave? A 100K protesters out of 80 million in Egypt is not that many but Obama wants him to step down.
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If one of your animals was rabid how much getting your head around the thing would you do beyond shooting it and leaving it for the coyotes?
You have to really get rid of it.
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x2 on our kids being raised as spoiled little wimps these days.
how sad it must be for the baby boomer generation (and older), to be watching this country fall right into the crapper as we have taken on so many socialistic laws and values over the last several decades :sad;
the way i figure it... for all my hellrazing and not so popular things i have done the first 30 years of my life....at least i haven't brought a child into this screwed up world.
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I think Egypt is the beginning of the End
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I think that was Tunisia....but either way, it is not good
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I think when Egypt slaughtered all the pigs for swine flu & took 25% of the jobs away from the Muhajeen? sp? people that collected, lived, recycled & raised their families doing it & were very Close people, they screwed up & had to admit the pigs were not the swine flu carriers. That was on Trashopolis & filmed maybet 8-10 months ago. Then they brought in Trucks & big plants to tackle the garbage, but soon found out trucks dont fit in narrow streets & markets. So, they offer them jobs at half the wages! That was last year & I bet you could sway that group easily to protest. Heck, they live in garbage & still they get picked on when nobody else wants the disgusting jobs they did. The pigs ate the organic waste so they were a Big Part of their lives & culture. That was a Big Mistake from the Govt I think! Probably plays abig part in this outcry from the people.
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We need a lot more "leaders" that think this way.
UK's Cameron: Europe must wake up on extremism
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110205/D9L6K1HG0.html
We need to be a lot less tolerant towards Islamic extremists
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1353902/David-Cameron-Stop-tolerating-Islamic-extremists-respect-British-core-values.html
State multiculturali sm has failed, says David Cameron
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12371994
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baby boomers started this crap....starte d spoiling their kids without discipline and an over indulgence of material goods with no work required to earn such....not to mention the schools were given the task of replacing mother and daddy without any of the tools required to raise kids
Schools have become unsupervised day care centers rather than being centers of education
i can agree with that steve.
maybe its hard for me to grips with cause i consider the boomers the "hard working" generation, for example, my parents. my dad who i would consider to be one of the best role models a kid could have,.. probably did over-spoil me at times. but all he wanted was for me to have a much better childhood than he had
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I spoiled mine as well...I am a bit older than the boomers as I was born just before Pearl Harbor instead of after the war....but times were good and I passed it along....
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Not sure if anyone else finds this artwork as beautiful as I do.
(http://mobi-wall.brothersoft.com/files/480320/l/12816539993658.jpg)
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We need a lot more "leaders" that think this way.
UK's Cameron: Europe must wake up on extremism
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110205/D9L6K1HG0.html
We need to be a lot less tolerant towards Islamic extremists
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1353902/David-Cameron-Stop-tolerating-Islamic-extremists-respect-British-core-values.html
State multiculturali sm has failed, says David Cameron
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12371994
Damn Brits stirring the pot and smacking the bees nest
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I smacked some mutton dressed up as lamb
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We need a lot more "leaders" that think this way.
UK's Cameron: Europe must wake up on extremism
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110205/D9L6K1HG0.html
We need to be a lot less tolerant towards Islamic extremists
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1353902/David-Cameron-Stop-tolerating-Islamic-extremists-respect-British-core-values.html
State multiculturali sm has failed, says David Cameron
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12371994
Damn Brits stirring the pot and smacking the bees nest
About the only coherent thing to come out of that shit hole in a long time. Aside from Keeley Hazel.
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maybe Obama should take some notes....and lots of good things came out of England
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....and lots of good things came out of England
It's called 'defection'.
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....and lots of good things came out of England
It's called 'defecation'.
Yep, they are shit out of good things these days
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back on a semi serious note...say the Muslims take over Egypt...they then control the Suez Canal..and you have to look at North Africa Algeria, Egypt, Libya, Morocco, Sudan, Tunisia, and Western Sahara...they are mostly Muslim states...that would effect control of access to the Mediterranean if they wanted...with only the British Controlling Gibraltar...I think Egypt and Tunisia are the stepping stones
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Say the dinosaurs became extinct because of programmed obsolescence, a code was buried deep within their genetic structure, and that same type of code is contained within our DNA as well, or say a giant asteroid hurtles itself into the earth, or say beer causes delusional cogitations, what are YOU gonna do about it?
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punk
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back on a semi serious note...say the Muslims take over Egypt...they then control the Suez Canal..and you have to look at North Africa Algeria, Egypt, Libya, Morocco, Sudan, Tunisia, and Western Sahara...they are mostly Muslim states...that would effect control of access to the Mediterranean if they wanted...with only the British Controlling Gibraltar...I think Egypt and Tunisia are the stepping stones
If we went back to producing our own oil to be self suffiicent the Middlle East could eat there oil. The Russian pipeline can supply all of Europe. I predict Eqypt will mess up with its new found people power and fuck with Israel. This will put the Suez Canal in there control in hours. End of problems.
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I have no fear as long as I'm wearing my bread-helmet.
(http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/022011/small_bread%20helmet%20guy.jpg)
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lets see...Tunisia. ..Egypt...Liby a....who is next....oh wait unrest in Algeria....did I say domino effect
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lets add Morocco to the list
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what about Bahrain, Yemen, and Iran?
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What about Madison, WI?
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You know, Chris, I had that in mind yesterday when I read his prior post... great minds....
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What I will point out here is the muslim "faith" is from Abram's illegitimate son from his slave. He rejected the child and his mother, a pagan, and she perverted the faith. The perversion continues due to jealousy. Imagine being based on the idiocy of ignorance and paganism. They wish to eliminate the truth of God and create the hell that the deciver wants so he can win.
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They wish to eliminate the truth of God and create the hell that the deciver wants so he can win.
*shakes head* Guys, really?
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funny thing is they are using the guise of democracy to advance their agenda.
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Lenin used the same tactics to take over..then he turned around and eliminated all the leaders so they could not use the same against him.
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history does have a way of repeating itself, unfortunately the Human race in general does not learn
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we have spent the past few years trying to eliminate oil production in this country and it appears that we shall soon be paying ridiculous prices for gas as a result.
Amazing how much onshore reserves have been discovered in recent years and more amazing how hard an effort is being put into not developing them.
Oh, well, Canada well end up owning us because they have plenty ready to go.
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The bad part of this is that the Alaskan pipe line isn't supplying America. It's going over seas, mostly to Russia. Think how cheap fuel would be on the left coast if they let it stay in the states. :mad:
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They wish to eliminate the truth of God and create the hell that the deciver wants so he can win.
*shakes head* Guys, really?
TOLD YA :snakeman:
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They wish to eliminate the truth of God and create the hell that the deciver wants so he can win.
*shakes head* Guys, really?
TOLD YA
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I have seen enuf that I don't believe anyone understands...
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They wish to eliminate the truth of God and create the hell that the deciver wants so he can win.
*shakes head* Guys, really?
TOLD YA
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The sad part is neither one of you would understand. Not insulting you but there's more to life than you could understand.
Who enlighten you :question;
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My posts are sinful, but thou shalt not blame me, for as God created the sinful man, but takes no blame, the supreme being that is Zap Almighty creates the sinful dribble, but takes no responsibility . I only pray (to myself) that said wayward dribble shall one day see the light.
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I am going to start my own religion. Zap, send me $100 and all of your sins will be forgiven and good fortune will be bestowed upon you.
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I'll live with the shame, and my hundred.
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The sad part is neither one of you would understand. Not insulting you but there's more to life than you could understand. :finga:
Don't worry, by now I've grown rather accustomed to having my wits demeaned by people who believe in talking snakes.
I'd like to take this opportunity to admit that I've spent my life in Candy Land, dodging any acquisition of depth at every turn and am therefor not qualified to wonder why god wont miraculously heal amputations or how Noah managed to wrangle up two north American Pygmy Short-horned Lizards.
Allow your unease to manifest itself as condescension again and I'll get really shitty.
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The sad part is neither one of you would understand. Not insulting you but there's more to life than you could understand. :finga:
Don't worry, by now I've grown rather accustomed to having my wits demeaned by people who believe in talking snakes.
I'd like to take this opportunity to admit that I've spent my life in Candy Land, dodging any acquisition of depth at every turn and am therefor not qualified to wonder why god wont miraculously heal amputations or how Noah managed to wrangle up two north American Pygmy Short-horned Lizards.
Allow your unease to manifest itself as condescension again and I'll get really shitty.
So you spend much time ridiculing those who believe in a god, making snide remarks belittling them and their comments, but, you take offense if they dare make a comment back to you? Somehow I find that absolutely hilarious....r eminds me of that old saying, "who died and made you god?".
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If there was ever a "pot calling the kettle black" regarding snide remarks, that was just it.
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but I allow them back as you so often prove. Hey, I just heard Ghengis Khan claimed he was a christian so I reckon that makes it true, huh?
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But my negativity has never resulted in a bulletin board owner selling out, has it? I know I'm a conceited, arrogant ass, and therein lies the difference.
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Now feel free to go back and expand on your 12th Imam theory. There's nothing like a scientific, rational argument for some LOL fun.
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I thought that was Ed's fault? Oh, well, I can carry the burden. Maybe, I should blame my faults on the christians?
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Holy current draw Batman!! what's going on here :rolleyes:
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Now feel free to go back and expand on your 12th Imam theory. There's nothing like a scientific, rational argument for some LOL fun.
I did not raise the 12th imam theory. That is strictly a muslim belief and quite a few million believe it. The president of Iran believes it to be his duty to hasten the apocalypse in order to speed up the imam's return. I am not sure why you wish to ascribe science and ration to the argument as I am pretty sure you know better in this case...but, Iran is always looking for someone to make a symbol out of so perhaps you should visit and tell him that he is full of shit? He seems to have a need to capture and try cia spies.
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are there any Americans in Libya...cause the British sent 2 war ships and 2 c-130's to pick up British Nationals and other foreigners...t he American media seems to poo poo this...
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I heard today that all Americans had been evacuated...an d that is the reason that O has now spoken out again Qaddafi.
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The sad part is neither one of you would understand. Not insulting you but there's more to life than you could understand. :finga:
Don't worry, by now I've grown rather accustomed to having my wits demeaned by people who believe in talking snakes.
I'd like to take this opportunity to admit that I've spent my life in Candy Land, dodging any acquisition of depth at every turn and am therefor not qualified to wonder why god wont miraculously heal amputations or how Noah managed to wrangle up two north American Pygmy Short-horned Lizards.
Allow your unease to manifest itself as condescension again and I'll get really shitty.
So you spend much time ridiculing those who believe in a god, making snide remarks belittling them and their comments, but, you take offense if they dare make a comment back to you?
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There's is no "God", "Allah", etc. We are just the most fucking arrogant species ever to think there's some omnipotent being watching over us.
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This thread should have been entitled Muslims vs the rest of the world rather than vs Christians.
The Muslim religion is also the Muslim government.
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Oh, yeah...I am arrogant in the face of ignorance, but, not conceited at all. I am a tenth degree MF, not an ass, as well!
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Strange how much alike Islam and Communism is other than one does it in the name of a singular god and the other did it in the name of No God.
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yes, that is very true....
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I am convinced that Wood has had himself cloned because there is no way that he can kill that much time in front of a computer. I agree with everything posted above and am so fucking thankful that he typed it rather than leaving it up to the rest of us.
Hey Steve, is believing one's own hype akin to "liking one's own brand"? :D
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I have to agree with Steves post...my intention was not to pit Muslims against Christians although it should have been Muslims against the christian faith whether it be Catholicism or Methodism or Church of England...but the Muslim faith is united in one goal..were as the Christian based faiths have multiple agendas,,,I only speak for myself and maybe for Steve but Americans are taught in school a different version of world history than those in Europe....do some research om your own and not be spoon fed information... The Muslim faith has been around since 610 BC and most major powers have been fighting them for 1700 years...
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All these years later the world has more or less forgiven Germany for murdering six million Jews without provocation... we're pretty much off the hook for bringing about the evaporation of a few hundred thousand Japanese after they destroyed Pearl Harbor...
...isn't it a safe assumption that if we had to vaporize some middle eastern real estate that the world would get over it sooner or later?
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I am convinced that Wood has had himself cloned because there is no way that he can kill that much time in front of a computer. I agree with everything posted above and am so fucking thankful that he typed it rather than leaving it up to the rest of us.
Hey Steve, is believing one's own hype akin to "liking one's own brand"?
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I think the world would be alot more likely to get over it were we still a true world power...in our current state, I'm not sure we can get away with as much.
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All these years later the world has more or less forgiven Germany for murdering six million Jews without provocation... we're pretty much off the hook for bringing about the evaporation of a few hundred thousand Japanese after they destroyed Pearl Harbor...
...isn't it a safe assumption that if we had to vaporize some middle eastern real estate that the world would get over it sooner or later?
If you listen to a lot of the Muslim leaders in the Middle east, they praise Hitler for what he did and would like to finish what he started.
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http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/018689.html
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If you listen to a lot of the Muslim leaders in the Middle east, they praise Hitler for what he did and would like to finish what he started.
Exactly, which is just why they are candidates for the turnaround.
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i guess i'm just getting old. if i where to say "fuck you" (even if it was in a joking way) to one of my elders thats always willing to share their knowledge and wisdom to help others out... i'd be too ashamed of myself to ever log on again :sad;
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i guess i'm just getting old.
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I am going to adopt Sylvan and teach him to be a goat rancher
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I am going to adopt Sylvan and teach him to be a goat rancher
Now that will be a consummation !
AJ___
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I am going to adopt Sylvan and teach him to be a goat rancher
Have him start on the prairie cactus first then fix the fence posts.
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i guess i'm just getting old.
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yes i'm for real. take some time out to grow up a little bit and get over it. there really are guys out there like me that believe in showing some respect for the honest intelligent people in the generations before ours. especially the guys (that for whatever reason that befuddles me), attempt to freely help us out with wisdom and constuctive critisism.
i can't speak for steve wood, but i've seen enough post from him to know that mouthing off at others with words like "fuck you", is probably not in his character at all.
not saying i'm perfect or the most mature guy in the world either. theres been a handful of comments i've made to a few fellow tbguys over the years that i regret saying and wish i could erase. i live and learn and try to put more thought into it the next time.
so don't go off on one of your "rants"... or start calling me a bunch of jr high names to prove your the coolest kid in class, and don't try to all of a sudden prove how grown up you are. just try and see it from a respectful perspective for a few months and maybe some things in your life will start changing for the better.
maybe start by not calling your wife a "cunt". i bet your a real gem to be married to :rolleyes;
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yes i'm for real.
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i've no problem with sylvan if he wants to mouth off and talk ignorant to guys like me, i can relate probably more than he knows, and go along with it. it just gets old and really disrepectful when it needlessly gets thrown at good people, specially older people that don't deserve it.
yep! thats right, i've got a opinion and i'm gonna voice it :supz:
aint prolly gonna change anything, so no need for me to start in everytime it happens, i'll probably just get annoyed and eventually leave