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Title: Jared Loughner
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 08 2011, 06:55:24 PM
Why are the retards usually the loudest in a group?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZWqA2LGaBM
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: SuperSix on January 08 2011, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:55 pm"
Why are the retards usually the loudest in a group?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZWqA2LGaBM


Don't you have the most posts here?  :finga:
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: daveismissing on January 08 2011, 07:05:22 PM
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:57 pm"
Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:55 pm"
Why are the retards usually the loudest in a group?


Don't you have the most posts here?
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 08 2011, 07:07:57 PM
A couple of birds die and and you ladies are all talkative but a guy shoots a congresswoman in the head and...nothing?
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: ULYCYC on January 08 2011, 08:32:49 PM
With all the tv channels and news sources flooding us since lunchtime it's really not much to add to it.   Hang him by his balls and send the picture to all the HS kids facebook pages in the country.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 08 2011, 08:48:35 PM
I don't know why, but in these situations I always want to hear from/about the family of the douche.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: gordyzx9r on January 08 2011, 09:38:58 PM
The thing is, the news can't even keep up with what's legitimate and what's not about this guy.

First, he's in the military and a veteran of Afghanistan.  Then it's that he applied to the Army but was rejected.  

Then there are people claiming to be friends, ex-friends, high school mates, etc. that say he was "lefty", "philosophical",  an "atheist", and other things which the news grabs up and throws out there.  

Not to mention that all the other wackos out there with a keyboard are feeding on this too, someone made the guy a FB page and added Sarah Palin and the Tea Party as their "likes".


This is supposedly a pic of the shooter:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/01/08/article-1345413-0CB0F293000005DC-607_306x423.jpg)

This is supposedly something he posted on his myspace:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/01/08/article-1345413-0CB0F283000005DC-870_306x423.jpg)

And look at this list of favorite books:

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I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.


Websites are trying to paint a picture of him based off those books...hell, I had to read most of those in high school aside from stuff like the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf.  But it sure doesn't look like the "Tea Party Book of the Month Club" reading to me.

I think he was just a wacko with no political affiliation whatsoever.

Also, some site are saying law enforcement is looking for a second suspect, some say they have a second suspect in custody, and then there is another site that says all that plus law enforcement is looking for a third.  But hardly any single news source can be compared to another right now without discrepancies.  It's almost like their digging through blogs and throwing up anything they find.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 08 2011, 09:49:07 PM
I thought it was a bit disgusting that they announced that she was dead and then renegged...
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: gordyzx9r on January 08 2011, 09:50:29 PM
Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:49 pm"
I thought it was a bit disgusting that they announced that she was dead and then renegged...


It's like they're all trying to get it out first without checking the facts.  

I think I saw so far that there has been a child killed and a Federal Judge.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 08 2011, 09:56:21 PM
I've heard the same. They went from, "we don't know if she's hurt" to "she was shot in the head" to "she's dead" to "the doctors are quote 'very optimistic'". I am SO glad that we get to watch this little smacked-ass get tried and sentenced. Whenever it's a murder/suicide I get so mad that I don't get to see someone PAY for the bullshit.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: gordyzx9r on January 08 2011, 10:27:44 PM
Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:56 pm"
I've heard the same. They went from, "we don't know if she's hurt" to "she was shot in the head" to "she's dead" to "the doctors are quote 'very optimistic'". I am SO glad that we get to watch this little smacked-ass get tried and sentenced. Whenever it's a murder/suicide I get so mad that I don't get to see someone PAY for the bullshit.


Yeah, it was just like that with the shooter.  The other senator (Lopes?) said that she heard that the shooter was an ex-military veteran who had returned from Afghanistan.  So immediately all the news sites start running with that.  Then the Army comes out and says...woah, this guy tried to enlist in the Army but he wasn't allowed to (for reasons they can't disclose).
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: Recklessrob on January 09 2011, 02:18:24 AM
I had also heard in the news that his myspace page was already taken down by the powers that be.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: Pyro6 on January 09 2011, 08:09:17 AM
The sad additional fallout, the six year old child killed for no reason but being in the wrong place at the wrong time. One further reason to hang him by his balls.
Title: Jared Loughner
Post by: SuperSix on January 09 2011, 08:49:35 AM
I would like to note that I didn't click the link in the OP, and had no idea who this character was previous to my joke post.

I meant no disrespect to the victims or their families.

Drudgereport.c om has many news links on this fucking waste of skin.

This is a perfect example where wild west justice should be used - take him out and shoot him.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: gordyzx9r on January 09 2011, 09:27:47 AM
The smoke is starting to clear. 6 dead, unbelievable. The Senator is still in critical condition, unconscious but doctors are hopeful she'll recover. They are looking for another person, they have a picture of him, he's an older man but they haven't said if he was involved in the shooting or why he's a suspect.


The 9 year old girl (http://globalgrind.com/channel/news/content/1899875/she-has-a-name-christina-taylor-greene-9-yr-old-killed-in-tucson-massacre-born-on-91101-photos/)

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The identity of the 9-year-old tragically killed in this morning's deadly rampage is Christina Taylor Greene.

Family says she was vibrant, excited about life, and she was the "best daughter in the world."

Born on September 11, 2001, Greene was excited about the political process, was on the student government, and went to the Giffords event today to learn more about the political process, family members say.


She was born on 9/11...unbelievable.

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The Pima County Sheriff's Office has released the identities of the six people killed in this morning's tragic shooting.

-John Roll, 63, a federal district court judge.

-Gabriel Zimmerman, 30, Giffords' director of community outreach

-Dorwin Stoddard, 76, a pastor at Mountain Ave. Church of Christ.

-Christina Greene, 9, a student at Mesa Verde Elementary

-Dorthy Murray, 76

-Phyllis Scheck, 79
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2011, 12:50:26 PM
I couldn't go on living if I lost my daughter...esp ecially to a fucking confused puke like this. God bless that little girl's family...
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: Pyro6 on January 09 2011, 01:27:51 PM
Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:50 pm"
I couldn't go on living if I lost my daughter...esp ecially to a fucking confused puke like this. God bless that little girl's family...
Ditto. My mistake as posted earlier, she was 9. Pisses me off about it is she never had a chance. Innocence.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: richie6 on January 09 2011, 01:30:47 PM
The first thing that came to mind was Sarah Palins "crosshairs" map.  But I think the Sherrif of Pima County about summed it up:

In a candid moment at a press conference on Saturday, Dupnik said his state had become ground zero for the sort of political rhetoric that foments violence.

"When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous," Dupnik said. "And unfortunately, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry."

With that remark, ironically, Dupnik has become the target of just the sort of rhetoric he was decrying.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2011, 01:41:15 PM
I'm about two paces from flannel-wearing militiaman myself, but shooting innocent people? I place all the blame squarely on the parents.
Title: Jared Loughner
Post by: Zap on January 09 2011, 03:20:11 PM
The inevitable liberal knee jerking begins. Opinion should not be withheld, and first amendment rights should not be infringed upon, due to the the possible reactions of a lunatic fringe. To blame political rhetoric is laughable and disingenuous, but the left wing ideology has always been so. Those wanting to hate will always find reason to do so, and targets will always be readily available. Only a matter of time before the next gun control bill is brought up...sigh.

Sarah Palin and the tea party have seemingly replaced "big oil" and "big business" as the new and disapproved bogeymen of the left. Interesting how EVERYTHING that happens somehow gets blamed on one or both of the two (according to some). I guess Bush has been out of office long enough so that he is immune, though It would not surprise me...
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2011, 03:33:07 PM
Well, let's not forget how the religious right blamed musicians for Columbine, either. It seems retards can never be labeled as just such.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: Zap on January 09 2011, 03:37:28 PM
The religious types blame mankind for everything, for man is a sinner, while the secular progressives blame society for everything. Either way is easier than having to  do the unthinkable, which is to actually do some thinking.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2011, 03:41:44 PM
I'm reminded of the old Sacred Reich song, "Who's To Blame".

I don't know if taking away ANYONE'S rights is the answer, but somehow we have to get teachers to stop telling every last little retard who comes through their class that he's special. This freaking idiot Loughner is probably sitting in a cell somewhere even now thingking that he's some sort of visionary dissident.
Title: Jared Loughner
Post by: Zap on January 09 2011, 03:45:14 PM
Sometimes there are no answers. Manufacturing defects can and will occur. Knee-jerking and blaming accomplish nothing, other than the self satisfaction that stems from righteous indignation
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2011, 03:48:15 PM
Is AZ a state that imposes the death penalty, I wonder?
Title: Jared Loughner
Post by: Spoolin' on January 09 2011, 05:36:13 PM
The thing I notice about all of these religious radicals trying to 'spread the word' is that they are covering up there own mistakes and vices. I've never been one to judge someone on the basis of there religion or lack there of, it doesn't seem like any reason to dislike someone.

The upbringing of these whackjobs should always be in question. I'm not saying its the parents fault, but it should be looked into. If that wacko was molested, beaten, even picked on as a kid it could lead to this if there's no way to confront those demons. When the catholic priest sex scandals started coming out of the woodwork, I wondered how many of these school shootings and other random attack masterminds were victims.

I agree with a previous post. Someone who has that much hatred to go out and kill innocent people needs to be dealt with by old-world justice.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: richie6 on January 09 2011, 06:51:02 PM
I don't think it's knee-jerk to connect the dots. Some people stir up shit and stand back and wait for some nutcase to work by proxy for them. Disingenuous is their mock outrage when these so-called "patriots" (all the McVeys, the nut who flew his plane into the IRS building et al) actually take the suggestions planted in their minds and carry out these heinous deeds.  
If only all the metaphors weren't about guns and shooting people that you disagree with politically.
"Don't retreat, reload!" - Sarah Palin, former Governor of Alaska

"If this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies." - Sharron Angle, former member of the Nevada State Assembly

"If ballots don't work, bullets will." - Joyce Kaufman, Radio host, Tea Party activist

"Sarah Palin has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district and when people do that, they've gotta realize there are consequences to that action."
- Currently serving Congresswoman from Arizona Gabrielle Giffords
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: ULYCYC on January 09 2011, 07:23:48 PM
It's hard to monday morning quarterback a act like this. The kid is fucked up and a trigger in his head can go off at any time. It can be politics, against animals or parents or someone looking at him the wrong way. We used to put troubled people in mental hospitals years ago, but it's not politically correct anymore.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: richie6 on January 09 2011, 07:51:41 PM
That's the bottom line, Ed. But when you get some tea-bagger nut bringing a .308 to a heath care rally...that doesn't seem too fucking rational to me. Just meant to intimidate. We'll wait to see what this kid's political bent was.  
But on a happier note.  Glenn Beck's radio show was cancelled in NYC and Philly. Oops. :jerkit;
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2011, 08:22:32 PM
Quote from: "richie6 @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:51 pm"
I don't think it's knee-jerk to connect the dots. Some people stir up shit and stand back and wait for some nutcase to work by proxy for them. Disingenuous is their mock outrage when these so-called "patriots" (all the McVeys, the nut who flew his plane into the IRS building et al) actually take the suggestions planted in their minds and carry out these heinous deeds.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: richie6 on January 09 2011, 08:30:11 PM
why's that? you're just mad about GB radio show getting shit-canned. and yer a dick.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2011, 08:35:42 PM
Quote from: "richie6 @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:30 pm"
why's that? you're just mad about GB radio show getting shit-canned. and yer a dick.
Because your argument is juvenile and makes no sense. Tell me, Mr. Dot Connector- what good to the second ammendment argument is done by attemtping to rile up nuts in the hopes that they act irresponsibly and make the worst possible case for gun owners? Think about it a little. Despite how conveniently it strokes your point of view, a square peg does not fit in a round hole.
Title: Jared Loughner
Post by: Zap on January 09 2011, 08:39:04 PM
There is no group more full of hate-filled ideology than the left, and that ideology is, more often than not, the direct result of incessant media and blog-driven propaganda. Be that as it may, if some left-wing wacko were to go on a right-wing shooting spree, would it be appropriate to blame said actions on the propaganda, or would it be better, and indeed more logical, to lay blame where it should be lain, i.e. on the inability of a mentally ill shooter to assimilate and differentiate between fantasy and reality?

We cannot make laws and establish broad characterizati ons based on the actions of a lunatic minority, no matter how heinous their actions may be. To invoke Sarah Palin's name, bring up the tea party, or cut and paste various condemnable quotes, and in doing so attempt to cast some sort of right-wing bogeyman as the villains in this, or pretend that they are somehow responsible for the actions of a madman, is simply laughable.

 Such a thoughtless and hate-driven politically motivated agenda says much more about the mindset of the left than I ever could. While personally gravitating more toward the libertarian view of things, rather than either the conservative or liberal side, it has always been my observation that modern liberalism is, unfortunately, heavily based upon blame, hatred, and distrust,while it eschews solutions and logical thought.

It is truly a shame that many out there are, and will be, more than willing to make martyrs out of the tragic victims of a tragic act, and at the same time decry hatred, while actively and vociferously engaging in the very thing that they decry.

Sometimes, it's better to simply lay the blame where it belongs.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: richie6 on January 09 2011, 09:08:12 PM
brb, gotta cut n paste some shit.
For the sake of argument, lets say some impressionable teenager that grows up listening to Rahowa or Screwdriver gets arrested for a hate crime. Jeez, I wonder where he got that idea? Sure, he was probably troubled to begin with, but why throw kerosine on the fire?  We've got freedom of speech up here, but we can't say anything that incites hate. I think it's a good trade off.
And north of the 49th, you'd have to make a pretty strong argument why you need a SPAS 12, AR15 or SKS for hunting moose.  Let alone going to a picnic straped.
It's a cultural difference.  I had to have my engine rebuilt in Baton Rouge LA back in 2003, which I stayed in a creeped out motel on Airline Hwy. The machinist at Factory Engine offered to lend me his pistol, God Bless em.  I passed, but slept with my buck knife and baseball bat beside me.
What the fuck were we talking about?
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: ULYCYC on January 09 2011, 09:44:57 PM
Quote from: "richie6 @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:08 pm"
brb, gotta cut n paste some shit.
For the sake of argument, lets say some impressionable teenager that grows up listening to Rahowa or Screwdriver gets arrested for a hate crime. Jeez, I wonder where he got that idea? Sure, he was probably troubled to begin with, but why throw kerosine on the fire?
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: richie6 on January 09 2011, 10:33:49 PM
Anyone can talk shit. It's the lunatics that act on it.  
 From the CSM (Because Deception and Zap wouldn't ever think of cut n pasteing from the Christian Science Monitor):
On Sunday, Fox News quoted a Department of Homeland Security memo that states Mr. Loughner is "possibly linked" to American Renaissance, which DHS says promotes views that are "anti-government, anti-immigration, anti-ZOG [Zionist Occupational Government], anti-Semitic." Both Giffords and Mr. Zimmerman are Jewish.
Title: Jared Loughner
Post by: Zap on January 09 2011, 10:38:07 PM
sigh
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2011, 10:39:45 PM
Quote from: "richie6 @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:33 pm"
(Because Deception and Zap wouldn't ever think of cut n pasteing from the Christian Science Monitor)
Cut. Paste. Wipe.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: richie6 on January 09 2011, 10:43:04 PM
cheer up...we'll get through this. :)
Title: Jared Loughner
Post by: Zap on January 09 2011, 10:45:50 PM
Sylvan is a dick, that much is undeniable
Title: Jared Loughner
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2011, 10:52:04 PM
Quote from: "Zap @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:45 pm"
Sylvan is a dick, that much is undeniable
Watch your mouth, fucko.


I take it back. See, I'm not a dick at all.
Title: Jared Loughner
Post by: Zap on January 09 2011, 10:56:02 PM
It's not your fault. I lean toward the nature end of the nature vs nurture argument. There was just a certain inevitability that some of us would become dicks, while others would emerge as assholes. We assholes don't hold it against you dicks, at least not in public
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2011, 10:58:50 PM
Yep, that's definitely vomit right there.
Title: Jared Loughner
Post by: Zap on January 09 2011, 11:00:20 PM
Now that's entertainment!
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: ULYCYC on January 10 2011, 08:31:39 AM
Quote from: "richie6 @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:33 pm"
Anyone can talk shit. It's the lunatics that act on it.
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: richie6 on January 10 2011, 08:49:42 PM
but then we'd be talking about insider trading
Title: Re: Jared Loughner
Post by: Racer X on January 10 2011, 09:35:31 PM
Quote from: "ULYCYC @ Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:31 am"
He also could have linked up with Martha Stewarts website. Then go to Walmart and shoot holes in 200 count
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