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Title: TBS board again???
Post by: Pyro6 on January 07 2011, 09:44:50 AM
Does anybody know what's going on back at TBS??? Red Revline something or other seems to be knew owners????
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 07 2011, 10:03:27 AM
No idea - pretty crazy post too, nothing about what's going on with it. I wonder if they are affiliated with Autoforums.etc .
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: 2 FILIP on January 07 2011, 10:16:15 AM
Lol, it took what, 2 weeks for Vertical Scope to give up and cut their losses?

That's comical.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: ULYCYC on January 07 2011, 10:18:23 AM
I guess Jung found out he bought a empty shoe box and passed it on.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 07 2011, 10:38:35 AM
I wonder who is really behind it.

They are another message board conglomerate - that explains the boilerplate introduction email.
Or, it may all be a sham, I dunno. The "87" in the username is interesting - registered in 09 on TBS, and it's the same one used on the other boards. Doubt it's a bot - the join dates on the various boards are similar, but not the same. Possibly bought a chunk of Autoforums? All of the intro posts were done over a 3-4 hour period, very un-bot like.

Revtoredline Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?q=revtoredline&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=sYZ&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&&sa=X&ei=7i4nTZnNOI66sAOxmJjEBw&ved=0CBUQvgUoAA&q=revtoredline&nfpr=1&fp=9bef8cda26d1a6ec)

This doesn't bode well. :D
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: Steve Wood on January 07 2011, 11:16:18 AM
I just want a penny for each one of my posts over there...or the ability to erase them all
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: Pyro6 on January 07 2011, 11:45:37 AM
You won't get them, they are in the Turbo Hall of Fame. :psix; You gotta start all over again. :atbeer:  :atbeer:
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: tb3 on January 07 2011, 11:48:20 AM
lol! I just went over there and got all ready to start a new thread on jow I just bought the board from redline and you all are banned so go boink yourselves.  
I chickened out though, lol!  I'm enough of a retard as it is, rather than showing I'm that bored right now

I pretty much knew nothing of mike savino cept I liked the way he ran his board. but sure wish he would've let everybody in on what was going on.
lol, I wonder if he talked it up big time with vertical scope and figured he'd never get that much money from one of us, then took the money and ran
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 07 2011, 11:53:27 AM
It could all be bullshit - who knows.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: Steve Wood on January 07 2011, 12:04:55 PM
It's all history to me....and I gots lotsa history
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 07 2011, 12:15:01 PM
Quote from: "Steve Wood @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:16 am"
I just want a penny for each one of my posts over there...or the ability to erase them all


Seems kinda shitty that you can't at least ERASE the posts.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: ULYCYC on January 07 2011, 12:24:05 PM
As soon as it's known that the site is corporate owned I will send a cease and desist letter from my lawyer to remove or not allow any of my tech posts to be viewed without paymet to me.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 07 2011, 12:33:04 PM
Quote from: "ULYCYC @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:24 pm"
As soon as it's known that the site is corporate owned I will send a cease and desist letter from my lawyer to remove or not allow any of my tech posts to be viewed without paymet to me.


I wonder if license to the posts transfers once you signup and post.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: ULYCYC on January 07 2011, 12:47:42 PM
The way I understand it you own the post and it's contents so the board owners can't be sued for content. Board owners can't have it both ways.  So the post writer can demand to have it taken down or be paid for it's contents after a given timed letter as per my research.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: firebird_1252 on January 07 2011, 12:53:56 PM
hmm thread gone.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 07 2011, 01:11:47 PM
Quote from: "firebird_1252 @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:53 pm"
hmm thread gone.


Yep - I have a feeling it was a spam post of some sort. I can't figure out why someone would do that. It's odd.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 07 2011, 01:19:39 PM
I call spam to drive traffic to his site.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: Pyro6 on January 07 2011, 01:32:37 PM
Quote from: "firebird_1252 @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:53 pm"
hmm thread gone.
Where did it go?? What a way to kill something for good. Asshole.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 07 2011, 02:07:24 PM
Quote from: "Pyro6 @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:32 pm"
Quote from: "firebird_1252 @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:53 pm"
hmm thread gone.
Where did it go?? What a way to kill something for good. Asshole.


I have to assume the admin over there deleted it, as it was spam.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: gordyzx9r on January 07 2011, 02:10:30 PM
Last week I sent Yung a PM asking about purchasing the site.

Quote
Re: When and if the new owners are ready to sell
Thanks for the feedback Gordy. Honestly, we're in here for the long haul. We'll see how things turn out and if you have any suggestions for me to make this place better than before, I'm all ears.

Yung
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: firebird_1252 on January 07 2011, 02:47:28 PM
tell him yes.. to sell it back to a gn owner.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: Pyro6 on January 07 2011, 04:57:03 PM
Rob's and my posts mysteriously disappeared. I think it's Gothy
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 07 2011, 05:18:30 PM
Quote from: "Pyro6 @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:57 pm"
Rob's and my posts mysteriously disappeared. I think it's Gothy


What thread were they in?
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: Pyro6 on January 07 2011, 05:20:48 PM
grumpy's I thought, looked back. Must have been the original missing thread, El Spamo dick. Between work, employees wanting off early, and a sick waste oil burner, I was farting a brain :redfaced;
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: tb3 on January 07 2011, 05:43:08 PM
the only thing i am curious about is how much tbs.com sold for
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: 87granny on January 08 2011, 09:18:46 AM
Quote from: "tb3 @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:43 pm"
the only thing i am curious about is how much tbs.com sold for
A dollar, one buck, one clam so cheap and they fucked it up in a week
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 08 2011, 09:21:30 AM
Quote from: "87granny @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:18 am"
Quote from: "tb3 @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:43 pm"
the only thing i am curious about is how much tbs.com sold for
A dollar, one buck, one clam so cheap and they fucked it up in a week


Must have been a LOT for Savino to not sell it to Grimsley.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: ULYCYC on January 08 2011, 09:24:49 AM
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:21 am"
Quote from: "87granny @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:18 am"
Quote from: "tb3 @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:43 pm"
the only thing i am curious about is how much tbs.com sold for
A dollar, one buck, one clam so cheap and they fucked it up in a week


Must have been a LOT for Savino to not sell it to Grimsley.


They don't like each other so I doubt a sale would have took place. :smt071
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: 87granny on January 08 2011, 09:40:32 AM
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:21 am"
Quote from: "87granny @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:18 am"
Quote from: "tb3 @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:43 pm"
the only thing i am curious about is how much tbs.com sold for
A dollar, one buck, one clam so cheap and they fucked it up in a week


Must have been a LOT for Savino to not sell it to Grimsley.
Yea but the board and the community would have been better off if he did sell to SGRIM but that's just my opinion
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 08 2011, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: "ULYCYC @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:24 am"
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:21 am"
Quote from: "87granny @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:18 am"
Quote from: "tb3 @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:43 pm"
the only thing i am curious about is how much tbs.com sold for
A dollar, one buck, one clam so cheap and they fucked it up in a week


Must have been a LOT for Savino to not sell it to Grimsley.


They don't like each other so I doubt a sale would have took place. :smt071


Maybe he didn't sell to him out of spite. I dunno.

Either way, they are still connected, if the other admin there still works for the same company.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: gordyzx9r on January 08 2011, 09:48:43 AM
I just can't see it being that valuable compared to tb.com.  It wasn't getting much traffic.  I imagine the sale would be based something on how traffic and revenue from the vendors.  I've read that websites can be worth from 2 to 6 times their annual revenue...but it also has to take into account demand and relevance.  


http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/266/how-to-sell-a-website-how-much-is-your-website-worth/
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: 87granny on January 08 2011, 09:49:37 AM
I thought it was JayC that worked for them and not Grimsley
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 08 2011, 09:54:04 AM
Quote from: "87granny @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:49 am"
I thought it was JayC that worked for them and not Grimsley


Correct - but Jay has a hand in many sites, especially TB.com.

He's an enterprenuer, to be sure.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: gordyzx9r on January 08 2011, 09:54:19 AM
Quote from: "87granny @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:49 am"
I thought it was JayC that worked for them and not Grimsley


That's true.  But Shane tried to purchase the site on his own.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: ULYCYC on January 08 2011, 10:07:37 AM
Quote from: "gordyzx9r @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:48 am"
I just can't see it being that valuable compared to tb.com.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: Just a Six? on January 08 2011, 02:05:34 PM
I bet TB's.com only has around 200 members today. Even TB.com is way out of wack and maybe only has a few thousand.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 08 2011, 05:43:25 PM
The silver lining here is that this is the greatest trolling opportunity of all time.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 08 2011, 05:56:26 PM
Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:43 pm"
The silver lining here is that this is the greatest trolling opportunity of all time.


That's thinking outside the box, [strike]yung[/strike] young man.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: bishir on January 08 2011, 11:31:19 PM
That's the thing I hate about it: the lost tech...

I've been searching for while on TB.com for something today that I know I would have found right away on TBS.com.  

Sucks  :(
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: daveismissing on January 08 2011, 11:34:49 PM
I wonder if there is any way to get "wayback" to fully index/archive the site?
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: tb3 on January 09 2011, 12:47:02 AM
Quote from: "Steve Wood @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:04 am"
It's all history to me....and I gots lotsa history


and if that board stays up, and all post intact..... then all those post will only continue helping tb guys out for a long long time :prayer:
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: tb3 on January 09 2011, 01:00:08 AM
Quote from: "87granny @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:40 am"
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:21 am"
Quote from: "87granny @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:18 am"
Quote from: "tb3 @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:43 pm"
the only thing i am curious about is how much tbs.com sold for
A dollar, one buck, one clam so cheap and they fucked it up in a week


Must have been a LOT for Savino to not sell it to Grimsley.
Yea but the board and the community would have been better off if he did sell to SGRIM but that's just my opinion


i highly doubt he'd let the board run itself the way it was.  i like sgrim and tb.com.
but i don't think we need 3 tb.coms
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2011, 01:05:31 AM
Quote from: "87granny @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:40 am"
Yea but the board and the community would have been better off if he did sell to SGRIM but that's just my opinion
Nuh-uh. That's all I'm gonna say about that.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: Recklessrob on January 09 2011, 01:56:54 AM
Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:43 pm"
The silver lining here is that this is the greatest trolling opportunity of all time.


 :rofl;  :rofl;  :rofl;
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: firebird_1252 on January 09 2011, 10:12:02 AM
Quote from: "tb3 @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:00 am"
Quote from: "87granny @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:40 am"
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:21 am"
Quote from: "87granny @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:18 am"
Quote from: "tb3 @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:43 pm"
the only thing i am curious about is how much tbs.com sold for
A dollar, one buck, one clam so cheap and they fucked it up in a week


Must have been a LOT for Savino to not sell it to Grimsley.
Yea but the board and the community would have been better off if he did sell to SGRIM but that's just my opinion


i highly doubt he'd let the board run itself the way it was.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: gordyzx9r on January 09 2011, 10:50:50 AM
Quote from: "firebird_1252 @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:12 am"
Quote from: "tb3 @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:00 am"
Quote from: "87granny @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:40 am"
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:21 am"
Quote from: "87granny @ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:18 am"
Quote from: "tb3 @ Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:43 pm"
the only thing i am curious about is how much tbs.com sold for
A dollar, one buck, one clam so cheap and they fucked it up in a week


Must have been a LOT for Savino to not sell it to Grimsley.
Yea but the board and the community would have been better off if he did sell to SGRIM but that's just my opinion


i highly doubt he'd let the board run itself the way it was.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: Just a Six? on January 09 2011, 11:57:36 AM
i highly doubt he'd let the board run itself the way it was.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 09 2011, 12:14:36 PM
Racism on tb? Wow.

I just don't like Shane on a personal level from way back when the t6p shit went down is all. I honestly couldn't comment on how well or how poorly he runs a Buick BB.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: gbsean on January 10 2011, 06:39:26 PM
here is what pisses me off...No heads up to core members that made the site what it was. To even offer it for sale. Then I have sent Mike PM's with no response...eve n in reference to the BPG site as that is hosted by Jigawatt. I will continue to support the MAGNA and Toronto Section and will respond to my posts...but will offer no tech info...not that it was worth anything...but I have pointed people in the direction to find help...TBS was fun
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 10 2011, 06:45:58 PM
I can help you find a new host, should you want to change. Not responding to pms, etc about the hosting is plain wrong.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: Zap on January 10 2011, 07:01:28 PM
I will not post there under any circumstances. Such sites sell advertising space and basically use the board membership as free labor. Bullshit, and to hell with that notion, I say (in earnest and with all due forthright honesty).
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: gordyzx9r on January 10 2011, 07:59:53 PM
Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:14 pm"
Racism on tb? Wow.


You have to read between the lines sometimes to find it.  Someone there recently made a post wishing that movie theaters should be segregated so they wouldn't have to worry about black people.  I said something about not realizing Governor Wallace drove a Turbo Regal.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: gbsean on January 10 2011, 08:06:14 PM
I think I pissed Mike off

http://www.turbobuicks.com/forums/waiting-room/95928-ahhhh-finally-disappearing-threads.html#post832557
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: gordyzx9r on January 10 2011, 08:59:36 PM
For some reason I just wanted to type HEMCO BITCH! Or something like that...I dunno.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 10 2011, 09:27:58 PM
Y'know, Mike might be unhappy about letting the board go himself, just the money was too good to turn down. I don't know, just trying to play devil's advocate and be slow to throw a guy under the bus. Could someone enlighten me as to what he might be referencing when he says that the negativity may have driven him off?
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: xpander343 on January 10 2011, 09:40:47 PM
there seemed to be in the last year or so a ton of the main posters that just kinda stopped posting.   I guess i never really noticed what it was that drove them off.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 10 2011, 09:43:14 PM
I stopped going there a long time ago simply 'cause A: I like this board more and, B: It kept forgetting who I was, necessitating excrutiating re-registrations.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: firebird_1252 on January 10 2011, 10:47:33 PM
Quote from: "xpander343 @ Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:40 pm"
there seemed to be in the last year or so a ton of the main posters that just kinda stopped posting.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: Pyro6 on January 11 2011, 01:54:30 PM
Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:27 pm"
Y'know, Mike might be unhappy about letting the board go himself, just the money was too good to turn down. I don't know, just trying to play devil's advocate and be slow to throw a guy under the bus. Could someone enlighten me as to what he might be referencing when he says that the negativity may have driven him off?
I thought  he was talking about last year when he had problems with an alternator he sold.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: ULYCYC on January 11 2011, 02:37:43 PM
Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:27 pm"
Could someone enlighten me as to what he might be referencing when he says that the negativity may have driven him off?


I won't go into details but he didn't like it when we subjected him to the same critizism we would hang onto any other product or vendor. Snakeoil is snakeoil.
Mike gave it hard to others and got pissed when he was called out by some of the senior guru's.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: gordyzx9r on January 11 2011, 03:20:10 PM
Quote from: "ULYCYC @ Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:37 pm"
Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:27 pm"
Could someone enlighten me as to what he might be referencing when he says that the negativity may have driven him off?


I won't go into details but he didn't like it when we subjected him to the same critizism we would hang onto any other product or vendor. Snakeoil is snakeoil.
Mike gave it hard to others and got pissed when he was called out by some of the senior guru's.


Is this about the stock alternator amperage versus his alternators amperage?
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: ULYCYC on January 11 2011, 03:26:46 PM
Quote from: "gordyzx9r @ Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:20 pm"
Quote from: "ULYCYC @ Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:37 pm"
Quote from: "DCEPTCN @ Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:27 pm"
Could someone enlighten me as to what he might be referencing when he says that the negativity may have driven him off?


I won't go into details but he didn't like it when we subjected him to the same critizism we would hang onto any other product or vendor. Snakeoil is snakeoil.
Mike gave it hard to others and got pissed when he was called out by some of the senior guru's.


Is this about the stock alternator amperage versus his alternators amperage?


More or less. Also the real need for 200+ amps.  The stock alt or the 140amp alt will handle 99% of all needs for our cars.  This statement cut into his claims. Also he was confused by engine speed (crank pulley) and alt shaft speed.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: ULYCYC on January 11 2011, 03:54:33 PM
To add to what I posted above. I won't be part of a Americian or Canadian owned corporate board. Why should I spill out my 45 yrs of automotive knowledge for free so they can make money. I do it for free and will do it here or by email or on the phone.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: Steve Wood on January 11 2011, 04:25:40 PM
As Ed stated, Mike made several claims regarding alternator performance that were pure b.s. from a technical stance and was called on them.  

At the time, it was not known he was the force behind PowerBastards alternators, but, a little research into complaints filed with the BBB as well as on other forums turned up his ownership.

It was clear that despite his claims to not being a vendor, he was.  He did not appreciate his technical statements being disproved and stomped off.

He ran a good board for a number of years, and, it will be missed.

Like Ed, whatever little I know is available to anyone that I can help without charge.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 11 2011, 04:40:22 PM
Damn - I have one of his 200A upgrade kits in my TR. Should I worry?

Also - I am VERY honored to have such tech talent posting here!
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: ULYCYC on January 11 2011, 04:49:02 PM
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:40 pm"
Damn - I have one of his 200A upgrade kits in my TR. Should I worry?

Also - I am VERY honored to have such tech talent posting here!


Thank you

No real problem with the quality that I know of. You just can add a 5000 watt amp and weld fences now :rolleyes:
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: Ttype83 on January 11 2011, 05:01:01 PM
I need some welding done... I'm on my way over.  :supz:
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: DCEPTCN on January 11 2011, 09:18:18 PM
My car is sans Savino since I busted the starter I bought from him while pulling the motor. Bad Sylvan.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 11 2011, 09:26:45 PM
Quote from: "ULYCYC @ Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:49 pm"
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:40 pm"
Damn - I have one of his 200A upgrade kits in my TR. Should I worry?

Also - I am VERY honored to have such tech talent posting here!


Thank you

No real problem with the quality that I know of. You just can add a 5000 watt amp and weld fences now :rolleyes:


Car still has flaky voltage output at idle - did before I did the upgrade.
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: gordyzx9r on January 11 2011, 09:28:44 PM
Quote from: "SuperSix @ Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:40 pm"
Damn - I have one of his 200A upgrade kits in my TR. Should I worry?


Me too...and a mini-starter.  On the Scanmaster, I did notice an increase in voltage though...but the alternator that was replaced was the stock one and I also had all new Casper battery cables put in too.

What was funny was when I had someone replace my fuel pump and do a couple of other things.  They told me it would be a good idea to put on a Red's Volt Booster...Stev e had allot of great things to say about that (I've since removed it).
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: gbsean on January 11 2011, 09:42:53 PM
have had no issues with his mini starter...had a 200amp unit that flaked out asked if I could have him fix it...no response ...oh well nice guy got 240 unit only to find out I needed a new serpentine belt...would of been nice to have a heads upon that...there were a few posts that we...Ed SW myself called him out on....tha Alt sticks out like a sore thumb...the other was a ground issue he had with his RX7...oh well I have SW and Eds home # so I can call anytime...lol
Title: TBS board again???
Post by: Steve Wood on January 11 2011, 11:11:25 PM
I bought a couple of mini starters...the y are cheap imports...they work okay, but there is a piece of plastic in them that breaks and renders them inoperative with a backfire.

The alternators are just imported parts like many that we see sold everywhere.  The simple fact is that, as Ed pointed out, very few need more amps....as long as your amp is capable of putting out 13.5v with everything going while driving, then it has plenty of power.

Remember, the scantool does not necessarily reflect the voltage being supplied by the alternator...a nd, that as an alternator gets old, it may not supply as much as it did originally because the diodes are old and have been subjected to heat for years...does not mean you need a bigger one, just that the old one is getting tired.

Need to write a bit for the tech section on the subject, I think
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: Pyro6 on January 12 2011, 02:42:45 AM
Steve, when you write your tech section, figure in why anybody even wants a 200A alternator. Rear window defroster(so when we drive these cars in the snow), mini starter ( which uses gear reduction to an advantage) and 7,000lb lnjectors (to go really fucking fast) and than I will understand the major load requirements. Oh, and a boom box.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: ULYCYC on January 12 2011, 08:06:37 AM
I did a major alternaror writeup for Steve site but it's still in the proofread and shorten stage.  As Steve said maybe it's time to twaek it and get it posted.
On another note if you did have a system that needed all that amperage his CS130 base cases are too small and will self-destruct over a short time. That is why you see high amperage units with big heat sink vented cases for double the price. Pulling a max of around 85amps out of a typical Buick won't tax his small case unit.
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: 87granny on January 12 2011, 08:09:21 AM
Quote from: "Pyro6 @ Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:42 am"
Steve, when you write your tech section, figure in why anybody even wants a 200A alternator. Rear window defroster(so when we drive these cars in the snow), mini starter ( which uses gear reduction to an advantage) and 7,000lb lnjectors (to go really fucking fast) and than I will understand the major load requirements. Oh, and a boom box.
Yea and a generator hook up to power your house when the power transformer get's hit by a car
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: TSM Girl on January 12 2011, 09:19:15 AM
That is some crazy shit going on over there. I went over there a long time ago, then always had problems with log in's so I never went there. This was my board and still is. :supz:
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: SuperSix on January 12 2011, 09:22:13 AM
Quote from: "TSM Girl @ Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:19 am"
That is some crazy shit going on over there. I went over there a long time ago, then always had problems with log in's so I never went there. This was my board and still is. :supz:


The Official IHADAV8 den mother!
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: Steve Wood on January 12 2011, 11:13:44 AM
Quote from: "Pyro6 @ Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:42 am"
Steve, when you write your tech section, figure in why anybody even wants a 200A alternator. Rear window defroster(so when we drive these cars in the snow), mini starter ( which uses gear reduction to an advantage) and 7,000lb lnjectors (to go really fucking fast) and than I will understand the major load requirements. Oh, and a boom box.


None of that even comes close to making one need a a 200 amp alternator other than possibly a 1000 watt system...and then , one does not need one of these overdriven alternators that will soon burn up because they cannot handle the heat.  For serious system use, one needs an alternator with external rectifiers to try to cope with the heat that is generated.

Again, if your car is making enuf voltage to keep the battery charged at idle for long periods of time (say 13.0v) and around 13.5 v at cruise/wide open throttle on a volt meter (not a scantool), then the alternator is sufficient.  Note that the battery acts as a buffer with plenty of stored amps for normal idle periods.  

If your stock alternator gets tired, then replace it with the Impala 140 amp unit which is the second generation, improved version of our CS 144s.

This is what I turned Ed's write up into...about three times as long as he originally wrote....might be too much of a rant, tho...

http://www.vortexbuicks-etc.com/alternatorselection.htm

I see some of these guys selling alternators are putting smaller pulleys on them trying to get more amps out at idle...maybe savino is not the only one that does not understand the difference between alternator rpm and engine rpm?
Title: Re: TBS board again???
Post by: TSM Girl on January 12 2011, 11:27:05 AM
Quote from: "SuperSix @ January 12th 2011"
Quote from: "TSM Girl @ Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:19 am"
That is some crazy shit going on over there. I went over there a long time ago, then always had problems with log in's so I never went there. This was my board and still is. :supz:


The Official IHADAV8 den mother!




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