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Title: jfk
Post by: tb3 on December 27 2010, 07:59:05 AM
never have been able to figure out if i like jesse ventura or not.  from what little i know about him... so far, i don't like the guy.  

just like anybody else, i've always been interested in the whole mess surrounding jfk's assanation.  i've never tried to look too much into it though cause there just seems to always be too many theories and very little hard facts, plus, everybody's bs thrown into it.  i've watched a few documentries, but never any movies on it, certainly never watched the movie made by that oliver stone idiot.

i had never seen jesse's conspiracy theories tv show, but i caught the entire episode yesterday concerning the jfk assanation, and i must admit, i agree with jesse, the whole single person involvement (lee harvey oswald), just doesn't add up... pretty much any way you look at it.

at this point in history though, i would highly recomend that particular episode though.  i learned alot i didn't know, like the first gw's involvement, nixon, how so many people from that era are still trying to be hush hush,...etc....
Title: jfk
Post by: SuperSix on December 27 2010, 08:12:28 AM
I think there is far more info that we may never know. JK (and the Kennedy clan) pissed off a LOT of powerful people - especially the Mafia, who was very influential in that era. I do, however, find it hard to believe that no credible whistleblowers have appeared, given the amount of time that has passed.

There's some things that will never be released to the public - as the effects would be very far reaching.
Title: jfk
Post by: ULYCYC on December 27 2010, 08:23:35 AM
LBJ did it
Title: jfk
Post by: SuperSix on December 27 2010, 08:27:06 AM
Quote from: "ULYCYC @ Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:23 am"
LBJ did it


I've always though Trafficante had something to do with it.
Title: Re: jfk
Post by: tb3 on December 27 2010, 08:45:28 AM
no way that gun Oswald used could have been fired 3 times in 6 seconds, and... with that kind of accuracy at that distance
Title: Re: jfk
Post by: tb3 on December 27 2010, 08:57:03 AM
that kind of accuracy in that amount of time, rather
Title: jfk
Post by: firebird_1252 on December 27 2010, 09:04:55 AM
no how could oswald do it.. after all he was just a sharp shooter and a marksman in the military..
Title: Re: jfk
Post by: tb3 on December 27 2010, 09:34:42 AM
they've re-enacted the shoot several times with the same type of gun, which was a pretty difficult gun to cock after each fire. I don't believe anybodys been able to do it yet
Title: jfk
Post by: Steve Wood on December 27 2010, 09:55:17 AM
If I recall correctly, a number of shooters have been able to do it.

Anything that comes out of Jesse's mouth is warped as I see it.
Title: Re: jfk
Post by: tb3 on December 27 2010, 10:00:18 AM
hmm... never heard of anyone else being able to pull it off. but i know very little on it.  lots of other variables that make no sense though. either way, a interesting watch, I thought
Title: jfk
Post by: Steve Wood on December 27 2010, 10:51:02 AM
I have given up on most of those shows....such as the 2012 productions because a little research shows that many of the "facts" simply are not.  

Jesse's WTC conspiracy is another joke....simply entertainment.

JFK has many puzzling aspects, no doubt.
Title: jfk
Post by: ULYCYC on December 27 2010, 11:05:24 AM
Did Jesee figure out who shot JR yet?
Title: jfk
Post by: firebird_1252 on December 27 2010, 11:11:19 AM
by all means i'm not an expert on jfk.. but i did see the doc. on discovery a few weeks ago called the kennedy detail. they pretty much went in to detail on why everything and how everything went wrong and some motives of what happend. ie: the car speeding away and turning down another block or something.
Title: Re: jfk
Post by: tb3 on December 27 2010, 11:30:16 AM
ok ok :rolleyes;  I didn't know Jesse also is a wtc conspirator. that pretty much sums it up I guess. but, he (or someone else) did a good job of connecting some dots in that episode.  he even tracked down oswalds wife, who is still alive. he interviewed the guy that was standing on the grassy noll about 15 feet from where it happened. seems the FBI didn't really want to have anything to do with his account.  there's just to many people within the govt from day one that want to run from questions.

I can't think of anything else to talk about today.  Jesse should (or somebody more substansul) should go after twa flight 800.  he would definetly have something there
Title: jfk
Post by: firebird_1252 on December 27 2010, 11:32:25 AM
flight 800 i know someone that was in the water that night. he swares he saw a orange flash going from the water to the plane.
Title: Re: jfk
Post by: tb3 on December 27 2010, 11:33:21 AM
jr was taken out by Mexican drug lords
Title: jfk
Post by: Racer X on December 27 2010, 06:25:58 PM
Oswald acted alone.  Too much time has passed for someone(s) not to come forward and say what they know.  Lots of people love that kind of attention and in today's media blitz with the internet and all someone would have shown up by now. Even if they had their long lost Uncle's papers or whatever... Something would have been revealed by now.
Title: jfk
Post by: Racer X on December 27 2010, 06:29:20 PM
Here is real proof that he acted alone...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5IWK9sRYTs&feature=related
Title: jfk
Post by: ULYCYC on December 27 2010, 07:23:57 PM
Read the book "The Texas Connection" by Craig Zirbel  pub. around 1990. Great book and really does a good job pointing to LBJ.
Title: jfk
Post by: Charlief1 on December 27 2010, 07:27:42 PM
Quote from: "Steve Wood @ Mon 27 Dec, 2010 08:55"
If I recall correctly, a number of shooters have been able to do it.


Steve's right. It's not that hard to use a bolt action rifle in rapid fire. Go to any of the NRA CMP shoots and you can see several do it on a regular basis. Up until the 50's the British army used the SMLE exclusively and they could get 10 rounds off in a minute and make it count. All it takes is training.
Title: jfk
Post by: tb3 on December 27 2010, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: "Racer X @ Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:25 pm"
Oswald acted alone.
Title: jfk
Post by: tb3 on December 27 2010, 07:51:49 PM
Quote from: "Charlief1 @ Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:27 pm"
Quote from: "Steve Wood @ Mon 27 Dec, 2010 08:55"
If I recall correctly, a number of shooters have been able to do it.


Steve's right. It's not that hard to use a bolt action rifle in rapid fire. Go to any of the NRA CMP shoots and you can see several do it on a regular basis. Up until the 50's the British army used the SMLE exclusively and they could get 10 rounds off in a minute and make it count. All it takes is training.


steve is never right!  :starwars:   lol!  no seriously though... jesse, who is also a navy seal and rifle marksman did a reenactment from a crane in the episode.  give it a watch and tell me what you think.   i'd like to see your guy's opinion after watching it.  it aint too often i recomend a watch of something, specially a show with somebody like jesse ventura
Title: Re: jfk
Post by: tb3 on December 27 2010, 07:57:49 PM
and they also talk about lbj wanting him dead too.

apperantly, gearge bush senior was lying about his where a bouts during the assanation too,  and ended up being head of secret service several years later.


flight 800 was a bust before the missle/rocket even hit it.   funny how when they where reasembling the wreckage and it became quite clear it was hit by something... everybody outside of the "official investigation" where not allowed back, and the "investigating" abrubtly ended  :idea;  

faulty fuel tank wire my ass  :jerkit;
Title: jfk
Post by: Steve Wood on December 27 2010, 08:01:03 PM
If you build your premises on Jesse Ventura, you might as well read all the blogs about how the wtc could not fall down with airplanes hitting them...:)
Title: Re: jfk
Post by: tb3 on December 27 2010, 08:08:40 PM
argghhhh!!   i know i know!!!   lol!!!  

but for this one time.... give it a shot, i'd like to see your opinion after watching it sometime.  
all the way to the very end where they "supposebly" wouldn't let him shoot the final closing statements at the "eternal flame" site cause they said they don't approve of what he "jesse" does
Title: jfk
Post by: Steve Wood on December 27 2010, 08:20:25 PM
I have seen a couple of his shows...then I went and started researching his claims and washed him out...pure entertainment to feed those that love such stuff....Hard to give any credibility to someone that plays fast and loose with the documented facts....I don't approve of what he does either...he may be an ex Seal, but, he was also an ex wrestler....LO L

One would have thought the truth would have emerged by now if there was any truth to emerge....I doubt we know the complete story, but, I also think Oswald was the shooter.....
Title: Re: jfk
Post by: Charlief1 on December 27 2010, 08:33:58 PM
Here's some examples for you TB3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TPnKiejU-E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV5pSUlBz18&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LmYQhEfuxM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x3lOZ4yX6Y&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE6BBtjUig0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Gba5TKcgk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApnOT0SKpmY&feature=related
Title: jfk
Post by: Zap on December 27 2010, 08:35:15 PM
Quote from: "Steve Wood @ Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:01 pm"
If you build your premises on Jesse Ventura, you might as well read all the blogs about how the wtc could not fall down with airplanes hitting them...:)



Isn't it amazing how a large man-made structure is capable of falling down on its own, with no outside "help," and it happens fairly often, but a large man-made structure couldn't POSSIBLY fall down after getting hit by an airplane? Idiocy, perpetuated by idiots.

JFK? My only question: Where was O. J.? On the knoll with a knife, I'll bet.
Title: jfk
Post by: Steve Wood on December 27 2010, 09:07:36 PM
he was on 59 in a white Ranchero headed toward Mexico right after the shooting
Title: Re: jfk
Post by: tb3 on December 27 2010, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: "Charlief1 @ Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:33 pm"
Here's some examples for you TB3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TPnKiejU-E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV5pSUlBz18&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LmYQhEfuxM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x3lOZ4yX6Y&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE6BBtjUig0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Gba5TKcgk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApnOT0SKpmY&feature=related




the first one is my uncle fowler 2 weeks before his mom backed over him in the driveway with the tractor.

and those aren't very convincing.
watch the episode, you'll see what i mean
Title: Re: jfk
Post by: tb3 on December 27 2010, 09:14:44 PM
if only it was ricky the steamboat dragon that was hosting the show.... then you guys would be all for it :rock:
Title: jfk
Post by: Steve Wood on December 27 2010, 10:16:22 PM
You would have been the most popular resident on the block in the days of door to door salesmen :)
Title: Re: jfk
Post by: tb3 on December 28 2010, 12:57:28 AM
possibly.... but at the very least... they'd know they'd be getting a couple free cold beers and some good stories  :yawinkle:
Title: jfk
Post by: Zap on December 28 2010, 07:17:38 PM
As an aside, RFK was actually killed, ironically enough, by Rogue Elements within the CIA Rogue Elements within the CIA
Title: jfk
Post by: Racer X on December 28 2010, 08:34:16 PM
Sirhan Sirhan acted acted alone alone..
Title: jfk
Post by: Zap on December 28 2010, 10:26:17 PM
Sez you sez you
Title: jfk
Post by: firebird_1252 on December 28 2010, 10:45:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pc980ysd9Q   all jesse has to talk about.
Title: Re: jfk
Post by: DCEPTCN on December 28 2010, 11:50:40 PM
When that faggot walked off the show after little Jimmy's simple disagreement he proved to be an even bigger retard than I had imagined. And I imagined him a HUGE retard.
Title: jfk
Post by: firebird_1252 on December 29 2010, 04:22:50 AM
sylvan, i was looking for the sweeper they have when "venturea" was talking about the gay elite with the Chile miners.
Title: jfk
Post by: DCEPTCN on December 29 2010, 09:40:30 PM
Quote from: "firebird_1252 @ Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:22 am"
sylvan, i was looking for the sweeper they have when "venturea" was talking about the gay elite with the Chile miners.
That's a good one!
Title: jfk
Post by: firebird_1252 on December 29 2010, 09:59:33 PM
just wish i could find it
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